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  #911285 9-Oct-2013 11:40
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NonprayingMantis:
NonprayingMantis: so does anybody know if the people who sign up for this will be able to get iSky, or will there be some alternative equivalent service built?


judging by this, looks like you will in fact lose iSky when you switch to Vodafone's sky product.


http://www.vodafone.co.nz/tv/vodafone-tv/


I have Vodafone TV via cable in Wellington and I have an iSky account.  In the iSky account set up they have different customer types for Vodafone NZ and Teltraclear.

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Unless I'm wrong, the fact it is delivered via multicast (i.e. completely separate 'channel' to your UFB internet connection) and connected to its own Huawei router precludes the box from ever being part of your home LAN. That means Vodafone can never bring any features to the box such as DLNA client etc to integrate into your existing home setup. I think that's a bit of a shame. Unless I'm wrong.

 
 
 
 


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  #911557 9-Oct-2013 18:38
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steve98: Unless I'm wrong, the fact it is delivered via multicast (i.e. completely separate 'channel' to your UFB internet connection) and connected to its own Huawei router precludes the box from ever being part of your home LAN. That means Vodafone can never bring any features to the box such as DLNA client etc to integrate into your existing home setup. I think that's a bit of a shame. Unless I'm wrong.


Your Internet passes through the same Huawei router. So it is possible.




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sbiddle: I just see the irony of the whole product being the fact the product was designed to use the cable network as backhaul for IPTV/VOD but that never worked. We now have UFB multicast delivering a product that's still not available on cable!


With a good measure of respect Steve, unless you've badly described what you're thinking, what you are say above isn't correct.
Its NOT IPTV as far as the service exists on the HFC network.  The TV system on cable isn't multicast, its DVB-C.  All MPEG streams are avaiable to the STB tuners all the time on the HFC network.

Multicast IPTV obviously relies on IGMP joins and leave messages.  That will determine which particular playout stream a tuner is going to be decoding at any given time. 
That still doesn't make it VOD, as Video on Demand is understood to be today.




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  #911826 10-Oct-2013 01:27
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sbiddle: I just see the irony of the whole product being the fact the product was designed to use the cable network as backhaul for IPTV/VOD but that never worked. We now have UFB multicast delivering a product that's still not available on cable!


With a good measure of respect Steve, unless you've badly described what you're thinking, what you are say above isn't correct.
Its NOT IPTV as far as the service exists on the HFC network.  The TV system on cable isn't multicast, its DVB-C.  All MPEG streams are avaiable to the STB tuners all the time on the HFC network.

Multicast IPTV obviously relies on IGMP joins and leave messages.  That will determine which particular playout stream a tuner is going to be decoding at any given time. 
That still doesn't make it VOD, as Video on Demand is understood to be today.


What I meant was that the T-box was designed from day 1 to be an Ethernet capable device so it could be deployed over the TCL ULL network in 2009. Four years later we're finally seeing that technology work but still don't have any form of IP based VOD on the cable network, yet are seeing that solution now being deployed over UFB.


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So, are you suggesting that just because its ethernet/multicast based, it's considered VOD?
Programming still plays out in the same way as the cable TV service, you can join and leave a stream in mid-run
but it doesn't start that program run-out for you, the multicast receiving user, when you request it.

You are right, in that the only way to make true VOD work is to do it 'over the top' via IP but there are still
considerable bandwidth requirements, esp. when you scale it to providing services to HFC nodes with
500+ customers.  They all still have to share that node's DS bandwidth allotment.

What you take to deliver VOD means you can't use for high speed internet.
Its a balancing game that is impossible to win either way.




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