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  Reply # 75327 20-Jun-2007 14:36
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The announcement is a step in the right direction to gain market share for voip calling. Hardware costs can be recovered over time as noted in posts above but the biggie to me is the cost of calls. It needs to be cheaper than the capped prices of $20 to $25 per month set in the PSTN arena. My landline calling is on average 30 to 35 minutes per day. This would cost a minimum at PSTN $20 cap or $45 with VFX. Give me a $20 cap and I will sign up tomorrow! cheers George

It's fine paying $20 - $25 for capped calls but you're already paying somewhere around the $45 mark per month to have a PSTN connection in the first place so the effective cost of your phoneline is closer to $70.  If you're lucky enough to have wireless or cable and don't need a PSTN line and only make a few hundred minutes per month of calls (as many people do) calls then you could easily pay around the $20 - $30 mark for a phone service.

The beauty of VoIP is that you don't need to just stick with a single provider for all calls. Without trying to get off topic there are VoIP providers around offering capped calling rates and without URL dropping in a VFX thread it's possible to pay ~ 10c NZ for flat rate untimed calls (ie as long as you like) in around 40 of the most popular countries.

While it's possible to save money moving to VoIP lets not forget VoIP isn't necessarily about being the best value for money, the fact you can get flexibility and features your regular PSTN can't offer.

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  Reply # 75330 20-Jun-2007 15:13
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ninjabear: If someone were to call me on the VFX how would it work?Do they call my normal landline number?

It's a normal number - 04 831 XXXX, tho in auckland the range is different, obviously :)

The phone rings like a normal phone. You dial up like a normal phone. You fax like a normal phone*.

In fact, aside from the size of the bill (my last 3 have been under $5, so around $15 with the monthly on it), I doubt you'd notice the difference.

It helps to be a little network savvy, tho you dont need to be. If you have installed a DSL modem/router, you're good to go.

And - this i just my opinion - you need another form of line for emergency calls - eg a cell phone. Just incase your DSL or power goes out, and you NEEEEEEED to make an emergency call. If the power etc is on, 111 works just fine (so I'm told - I've never had to call it), but it's not something you want to be without - and most people have a cell tucked away somewhere these days.

* kinda. Fax over IP is hard, I'm told, tho once we worked out the wave form that the fax expected to detect a ring, it worked just fine. If you MUST have faxing, get the model above the PAP2T - or talk to Mavrick first!

Nic Wise - Waiheke Island, New Zealand -


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Reply # 75336 20-Jun-2007 15:50
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Awesome!  Great news.  As a user new to VFX, I also like to say thanks for the great service and help with diagnosing a fault with my new WAG.  I'm certainly recommending your service to friends.

Cheers Brad

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Reply # 75371 20-Jun-2007 18:03
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maverick: Good news for VFX and Xnet HSI customers , 

The management team here at WorldxChange (ably led by our CEO Cecil Alexander and Operations Director Paul Clarkin) have decided that effective 1st July customers that have both VFX and a XNet HSI connection, will have the monthly VFX charge waived.

Better late than never I guess (been very busy all yesterday) but I can't let this pass without saying:

Many Thanks to Maverick and the team at WxC for waiving 2 of my 3 VFX line rentals so far...

And for now extending this offer indefinitely Laughing

That's awesome guys!!!
Together with the waiver on Local Traffic for Xnet HSI users (meaning that VFX data is not counted), this is now adding up to a compelling case for ditching POTS completely once Naked DSL arrives.

I still have just one surviving Telecom landline and was undecided as to whether to Port that number to VFX once Naked DSL arrives.  From all accounts, Naked DSL isn't actually going to save very much money on the monthly Telecom line rental.

However, the small saving for Naked DSL together with the waiver of the VFX line rental is I think the Tipping Point that will move me on to VFX for that last POTS line as well.

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  Reply # 75599 21-Jun-2007 23:38
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This is quite interesting now

I just receive a call from a Hong kong Broadband Service Providering offering unlimited calls by pay around $10NZ a month and I get to have a HK phone number.It's sort of like skype.You install a program and call the other person but you pay a one off fee every month

Now the decision is should I stay with VFX....

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  Reply # 75600 21-Jun-2007 23:48
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There's a hidden fee in Skype

The person above who quoted that it costed 3 cents to call Hk is actually right but there's a connection fee which is charge once you call a person who doesn't use skype for example and landline or mobile. So you actually have to add a further 6.8 cents on top making it around 10 cents.

Skype is Cheeky....

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  Reply # 77184 6-Jul-2007 20:25
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Hi Maverick,
                 i signed up today and was surprised when  the rep said (in the recorded bit) it would only be free until ndsl arrived which was  expected in September. (She was aware I am on your flood plan.) Has your announced policy changed? cheers George.

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  Reply # 77224 7-Jul-2007 09:45
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GEOMAX: Hi Maverick,
i signed up today and was surprised when the rep said (in the recorded bit) it would only be free until ndsl arrived which was expected in September. (She was aware I am on your flood plan.) Has your announced policy changed? cheers George.

Hi George

No decision is made on this yet, when Naked DSL arrives (And just to confuse people the industry term for this will be Naked BitstreamLaughing) you will expect to see some changes how and what that will impact in the way of pricing is honestly not known as we still do not have any pricing yet from Telecom on what the charges will be. We have some ideas but until we have pricing we can't put together any packages for our customers.

But watch this space it's coming and we have some pretty good ideas Wink

Yes I am a employee of WxC (My Profile) ... but I do have my own opinions as well Wink


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  Reply # 77237 7-Jul-2007 12:13
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Phil, please update us as soon as you have any info.  For me as a South African Kiwi it is so frustrating that in this country people are not told until (exactly) 1 week before something happens.  Take for example TV program adds, you get told "coming soon" and then exactly one week before the program/series starts it is changed to "new week".  And then there is FreeView.  I knew all about it ages ago from forums, including the launch dates and that it is uselss getting DVB-S but wait for DVB-T which will be in high definition, but then exactly 1 week before launch date was the first advert and news article that it is being launched.  It would be so refreshing if people are given info to find out more and make decisions in advance, rather than this model of "we will tell them when it is ready and tell them they need to switch now without having time to think about it or find out more".  Phew, great to get that off my chest!

I request that you anticipate requests for doing a package where the customer simply signs up and then you will get their POTS disconnected, VFX enabled, and number ported without the customer having to fill in multiple forms.  At the moment one still has to sign up for VFX and then fill in another form for number porting.  How do I explain all that to my in-laws who are ready to do all that but won't manage everything that needs doing?  Also a document explaining exactly what will happen in the number porting changeover process would be great, without having to phone WxC to ask what will happen.  Another gripe about this culter is not being told what will happen, this is actually something that comes through our political system where people are lead into making decisions without thinking for themselves.

A mounth full, but I'm sure you will find something useful in all of that.

You can never have enough Volvos!

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