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  # 1019630 6-Apr-2014 22:05
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kiwipearls: No teasers then lol

No worries. At least you know your customers want it and would stay if you got it.

I'll cross my fingers that anything like this would happen very soon then ;)


Actually very few customers are asking for it afaik that's why it most likely wont happen

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  # 1019631 6-Apr-2014 22:09
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NonprayingMantis:
hagrid: This an't going to happen I'm afraid, ... when i said to vodafone on their facebook page that they should do carry over mins they said  ''carry over mins are a marketing ploy and nobody ever uses them and then I said ''peoples usage verys month to month'' i also said if nobody uses them why not allow mins to carry over what would vodafone have to loose? they didn't reply cause they knew i was right and they just like miking the system.


This is actually kinda true with the way 2D implemented it originally, where every plan had 'bonus minutes' that wouldn't carry over, and they always got used before any carry over minutes would.

It basically meant people would either never accrue any minutes,  or would accrue so many that they would never use them and they would just expire.

Carryover on standard plans would be good though - 2D and Skinny do it.

Of course, unlimited voice would be better :D


That was actually quite a con, good thing they changed it!

 
 
 
 


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  # 1019633 6-Apr-2014 22:24
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NonprayingMantis:
hagrid: This an't going to happen I'm afraid, ... when i said to vodafone on their facebook page that they should do carry over mins they said  ''carry over mins are a marketing ploy and nobody ever uses them and then I said ''peoples usage verys month to month'' i also said if nobody uses them why not allow mins to carry over what would vodafone have to loose? they didn't reply cause they knew i was right and they just like miking the system.


This is actually kinda true with the way 2D implemented it originally, where every plan had 'bonus minutes' that wouldn't carry over, and they always got used before any carry over minutes would.

It basically meant people would either never accrue any minutes,  or would accrue so many that they would never use them and they would just expire.

Carryover on standard plans would be good though - 2D and Skinny do it.

Of course, unlimited voice would be better :D



Unlimited calling is already here,  $69 a month gets you unlimited calling to NZ & Australia and 1.5GB of data too.



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  # 1019635 6-Apr-2014 22:33
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Andib:
NonprayingMantis:
hagrid: This an't going to happen I'm afraid, ... when i said to vodafone on their facebook page that they should do carry over mins they said  ''carry over mins are a marketing ploy and nobody ever uses them and then I said ''peoples usage verys month to month'' i also said if nobody uses them why not allow mins to carry over what would vodafone have to loose? they didn't reply cause they knew i was right and they just like miking the system.


This is actually kinda true with the way 2D implemented it originally, where every plan had 'bonus minutes' that wouldn't carry over, and they always got used before any carry over minutes would.

It basically meant people would either never accrue any minutes,  or would accrue so many that they would never use them and they would just expire.

Carryover on standard plans would be good though - 2D and Skinny do it.

Of course, unlimited voice would be better :D



Unlimited calling is already here,  $69 a month gets you unlimited calling to NZ & Australia and 1.5GB of data too.


 To expensive, try cutting that number in half

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  # 1019640 6-Apr-2014 23:00
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Several VF plans have 'unlimited' minutes and data which more or less renders the concept of 'carry over' irrelevant.

Carryover data would be handy unless they are planning on emulating US, UK etc and offering unlimited data too...!





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  # 1019642 6-Apr-2014 23:10
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I'm quite happy with prepay data of just chucking another add on onto the phone when data is almost out and canceling the one that would otherwise renew. Works fine on telecom not sure how vodafone systems would handle it. 3 gigs for $30 plus the $19 plans 500 megs almost always is enough now however.




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  # 1019643 6-Apr-2014 23:11
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hagrid:
Andib:
NonprayingMantis:
hagrid: This an't going to happen I'm afraid, ... when i said to vodafone on their facebook page that they should do carry over mins they said  ''carry over mins are a marketing ploy and nobody ever uses them and then I said ''peoples usage verys month to month'' i also said if nobody uses them why not allow mins to carry over what would vodafone have to loose? they didn't reply cause they knew i was right and they just like miking the system.


This is actually kinda true with the way 2D implemented it originally, where every plan had 'bonus minutes' that wouldn't carry over, and they always got used before any carry over minutes would.

It basically meant people would either never accrue any minutes,  or would accrue so many that they would never use them and they would just expire.

Carryover on standard plans would be good though - 2D and Skinny do it.

Of course, unlimited voice would be better :D



Unlimited calling is already here,  $69 a month gets you unlimited calling to NZ & Australia and 1.5GB of data too.


 To expensive, try cutting that number in half


Surprisingly VF NZ are not as expensive as it may seem. I did a comparison with VF's home country, the UK.

My Red plan has unlimited calls to NZ and Australia, unlimited ditto texts and 2.5 Mb of data for $120/month. If I want a new iPhone it will cost me $0 on a 24 month contract. At present exchange rates that is GBP67

According to VF UK, the same plan with the same phone, with only 2Mb of data, is GBP47 per month. Not as big a gap as you might at first think.

There are of course other issues - the UK VF contracts say that you can roam within the EU for $6 equivalent a day and use your included minutes - so I assume if you have unlimited calls, they will apply anywhere in Europe for $6 a day! Ditto data. Also the UK prices include tax at 20% not 15%.

Still, it was not as big a gap as I was expecting to be honest.





 
 
 
 


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  # 1019662 7-Apr-2014 00:49
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TBH the only reason I'm still WITH 2Degrees is the bank of carry over minutes I've accrued (and don't want to lose) and the data that's about to be carry over too...

I may be the minority, but my use age is in definite 'burst' patterns, as a teacher I use WAY more call time and data in the school holidays when I have the time, and am often away from my home also...

Although... I also have a vodafone sim awaiting the next term beginning and the launch of my femtocell as the signal (2degrees over VF) at my home is very poor/intermittent and ONLY vodafone offer to let me receive my mobile calls over my data collection...

*shrug* swings and roundabouts I guess?

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  # 1019673 7-Apr-2014 00:59
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hagrid:
Andib:
NonprayingMantis:
hagrid: This an't going to happen I'm afraid, ... when i said to vodafone on their facebook page that they should do carry over mins they said  ''carry over mins are a marketing ploy and nobody ever uses them and then I said ''peoples usage verys month to month'' i also said if nobody uses them why not allow mins to carry over what would vodafone have to loose? they didn't reply cause they knew i was right and they just like miking the system.


This is actually kinda true with the way 2D implemented it originally, where every plan had 'bonus minutes' that wouldn't carry over, and they always got used before any carry over minutes would.

It basically meant people would either never accrue any minutes,  or would accrue so many that they would never use them and they would just expire.

Carryover on standard plans would be good though - 2D and Skinny do it.

Of course, unlimited voice would be better :D



Unlimited calling is already here,  $69 a month gets you unlimited calling to NZ & Australia and 1.5GB of data too.


 To expensive, try cutting that number in half


Expensive compared to what?

Don't say compared to countries like the US and the UK - because you'll pay around the same (or even slightly more) for pretty much the same offering.



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  # 1019690 7-Apr-2014 06:15
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sbiddle:
hagrid:
Andib:
NonprayingMantis:
hagrid: This an't going to happen I'm afraid, ... when i said to vodafone on their facebook page that they should do carry over mins they said  ''carry over mins are a marketing ploy and nobody ever uses them and then I said ''peoples usage verys month to month'' i also said if nobody uses them why not allow mins to carry over what would vodafone have to loose? they didn't reply cause they knew i was right and they just like miking the system.


This is actually kinda true with the way 2D implemented it originally, where every plan had 'bonus minutes' that wouldn't carry over, and they always got used before any carry over minutes would.

It basically meant people would either never accrue any minutes,  or would accrue so many that they would never use them and they would just expire.

Carryover on standard plans would be good though - 2D and Skinny do it.

Of course, unlimited voice would be better :D



Unlimited calling is already here,  $69 a month gets you unlimited calling to NZ & Australia and 1.5GB of data too.


 To expensive, try cutting that number in half


Expensive compared to what?

Don't say compared to countries like the US and the UK - because you'll pay around the same (or even slightly more) for pretty much the same offering.




It should be free, companies owe us everything and we owe them nothing. Right?

$69 for unlimited is an amazing deal! Wish I used my phone more to take advantage of it.

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  # 1019711 7-Apr-2014 07:28
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There will always be those that will change for what they perceive is better, grass is always greener etc etc and expect they should always get the best deal even if it isn't really. As someone has already said just change and you get what you pay for (mostly)




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  # 1019739 7-Apr-2014 08:52

jeffnz: There will always be those that will change for what they perceive is better, grass is always greener etc etc and expect they should always get the best deal even if it isn't really. As someone has already said just change and you get what you pay for (mostly)


Amen. 

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  # 1019750 7-Apr-2014 09:17
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sbiddle:
hagrid:
Andib:
NonprayingMantis:
hagrid: This an't going to happen I'm afraid, ... when i said to vodafone on their facebook page that they should do carry over mins they said  ''carry over mins are a marketing ploy and nobody ever uses them and then I said ''peoples usage verys month to month'' i also said if nobody uses them why not allow mins to carry over what would vodafone have to loose? they didn't reply cause they knew i was right and they just like miking the system.


This is actually kinda true with the way 2D implemented it originally, where every plan had 'bonus minutes' that wouldn't carry over, and they always got used before any carry over minutes would.

It basically meant people would either never accrue any minutes,  or would accrue so many that they would never use them and they would just expire.

Carryover on standard plans would be good though - 2D and Skinny do it.

Of course, unlimited voice would be better :D



Unlimited calling is already here,  $69 a month gets you unlimited calling to NZ & Australia and 1.5GB of data too.


 To expensive, try cutting that number in half


Expensive compared to what?

Don't say compared to countries like the US and the UK - because you'll pay around the same (or even slightly more) for pretty much the same offering.




compared to nothing, it's just a lot of money.

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  # 1019751 7-Apr-2014 09:21
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hagrid:

compared to nothing, it's just a lot of money.


how is it a lot of money when you are comparing it with "nothing" wouldn't you need a measure to make this statement otherwise it means nothing





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  # 1019754 7-Apr-2014 09:36
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hagrid:
kiwipearls: No teasers then lol

No worries. At least you know your customers want it and would stay if you got it.

I'll cross my fingers that anything like this would happen very soon then ;)


Actually very few customers are asking for it afaik that's why it most likely wont happen


I have never asked for carryover data with Vodafone, but it does not mean I don't want it!  Ok, now I am asking.  It is something I absolutely, absolutely want, and it is reason enough for me to leave Vodafone for 2 degrees when my current plan is up.  This month I'm over my 300 minutes, most months I'd be lucky to hit 200.  I very much have ebs and flows.  On 2 degrees I wouldn't be penalized, on Vodafone I am.

Having Australian minutes would be fantastic too.

I would take a guess that most people simply vote with their feet rather than waste their time asking Vodafone to bring in carryover data (or similar).  I think its a lazy attitude for Vodafone to simply say 'no one is asking for it so they don't get it'.

Have Vodafone done any exit surveys (or similar) to see why people leave Vodafone or go to 2 degrees?  I'd be interested in seeing that survey...

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