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# 143491 16-Apr-2014 18:04
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Hello

I'm interested in finding out about the technical details of the Vodafone UFB TV offering. Streaming technology, comparitive bitrates (compared with Freeview HD and/or Sky native), decoder/recorder/set-top-box choice, encryption, on demand movie ordering technology etc.

Basically I'm trying to gauge how "locked in" to Vodafone hardware (router/switch, set top box) I would be, and what advantages (aside from the extra channels) the solution would have over a standard Freeview HD or Sky install.

I expect I've missed this somewhere but currently can't find anything beyond channel lists, EPG etc. on Vodafone's website or these forums.

Can anybody point me in the right direction?

Regards and thanks,
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  # 1026355 16-Apr-2014 18:09
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Completely locked in. You must use the Vodafone supplied hardware (DVR and Router)

Sky SD channels and HD are sourced direct so higher bitrate than via Satellite.




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  # 1026356 16-Apr-2014 18:18
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Completely uncompressed HD, As Grant said completely locked down and has a very high bitrate.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1026357 16-Apr-2014 18:22
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ZollyMonsta: Completely locked in.

Well that's unfortunate. Not going to be a suitable option for me then.

ZollyMonsta: Sky SD channels and HD are sourced direct so higher bitrate than via Satellite.

Really unfortunate. I thought I might have read that somewhere. I was also fortunate enough to be given a quick tour of some of the facilities at the Tardis in Seaview, so could have been mentioned then. A great selling point if you ask me... but no mention on the website?

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TimA: Completely uncompressed HD, As Grant said completely locked down and has a very high bitrate.

Completely uncompressed? Are Vodafone multicasting giagbits per second to each fibre node? Surely it's H.264 or MPEG of some description?
Speaking of multicasting, didn't someone post here very recently saying they got their Vodafone IPTV to work by enabling multicast routing on their router?
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=143367

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  # 1026386 16-Apr-2014 19:21
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Multicast is not broadcast, they don't send streams where they are not requested. The worst case scenario would be 24mbps x number of different channels being watched at once per edge device.

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TimA: Completely uncompressed HD, As Grant said completely locked down and has a very high bitrate.


completely uncompressed?  what bitrate is that?  

Can't see the measly 320GB Hard drive being much use if the bitrate sits at 20+Mbps

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  # 1026389 16-Apr-2014 19:28
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It's H.264 compression using multicast over UFB.


 
 
 
 




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sbiddle: It's H.264 compression using multicast over UFB.

What makes it not possible to use other hardware?
I assume the Sky channels are encrypted, but the Freeview ones...?
I also found the Asus router thread now, and the comments there make it seem like other hardware can work, but Vodafone don't want to support those configurations... which is fair enough. For the technically literate it would be helpful to have the bare technical truth somewhere even if not supported.

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Slightly OT but the only thing I'd like to know is when will we see Vodafone TV offered in more regions?

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  # 1026422 16-Apr-2014 20:05
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DjShadow: Slightly OT but the only thing I'd like to know is when will we see Vodafone TV offered in more regions?


Wheels are in motion... But no time frames yet that I'm aware of... :)




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  # 1026428 16-Apr-2014 20:38
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NonprayingMantis:
TimA: Completely uncompressed HD, As Grant said completely locked down and has a very high bitrate.


completely uncompressed?  what bitrate is that?  

Can't see the measly 320GB Hard drive being much use if the bitrate sits at 20+Mbps


In terms of not compressed i was meaning that it is delivered to us in its form it gets to you. So we are not further compressing like they do over Satellite.

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ZollyMonsta:
DjShadow: Slightly OT but the only thing I'd like to know is when will we see Vodafone TV offered in more regions?


Wheels are in motion... But no time frames yet that I'm aware of... :)



How about sky arena events? the only thing stopping me from switching from sky

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  # 1027768 19-Apr-2014 16:08
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FelixW:
ZollyMonsta:
DjShadow: Slightly OT but the only thing I'd like to know is when will we see Vodafone TV offered in more regions?


Wheels are in motion... But no time frames yet that I'm aware of... :)



How about sky arena events? the only thing stopping me from switching from sky


I never thought about those. I am pretty sure its specific to SKY? But dont take my word for it.

*Edit, I forgot to say. If you want digital TV through VF and live in Auckland over UFB you can only have VF TV.

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Looks like you can book Sky Arena on Vodafone TV: http://www.vodafone.co.nz/more-sky/

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FelixW:
ZollyMonsta:
DjShadow: Slightly OT but the only thing I'd like to know is when will we see Vodafone TV offered in more regions?


Wheels are in motion... But no time frames yet that I'm aware of... :)



How about sky arena events? the only thing stopping me from switching from sky


No Arena PPV events yet. In another few months...




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