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  Reply # 1054254 27-May-2014 12:20
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Congestion is what you get on a Conklin at peak times.
Congestion isnt dropping down from 150Mbp/s to 99Mbp/s at peak times.

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  Reply # 1054270 27-May-2014 12:37
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http://www.techopedia.com/definition/18506/congestion-networks 

Me sitting next to someone in a bus isn't congestion. But me being squeezed by other people when standing in a bus is congestion. What Voda have done is added extra seats to a bus that had no congestion so that every one has a better opportunity at getting their own single seat rather than sharing a large seat with a second user.



 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1054320 27-May-2014 13:44
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ripdog:
coffeebaron: If you want to see congestion on 4G, then maybe Vodafone could give us all 100GB data caps for $20 per month and then you'll really know what congestion is all about :)



If capacity has increased, then hopefully this will one day lead to increased data caps.

Honestly, I've never understood 4g in NZ. 3g does video streaming, audio stream, web pages, skyping all perfectly well. Vodafone made BS ads where apprantly a rubbish youtube server was fixed by switching to 4g, when in reality 3g does 720p youtube streams perfectly well. So what is 4g for?!

It sure does, but not everywhere. Go to Tokoroa or Huntly and try stream HD video over 3G. These are both HSPA+ and Dual Carrier (at least for Tokoroa). Reality is radio spectrum is a finite resource, but usage continues to climb. Imagine if the best we had was still GPRS!





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  Reply # 1054459 27-May-2014 17:04
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mrfte:

Me sitting next to someone in a bus isn't congestion. But me being squeezed by other people when standing in a bus is congestion. What Voda have done is added extra seats to a bus that had no congestion so that every one has a better opportunity at getting their own single seat rather than sharing a large seat with a second user.


Heh.
I like the analogy.

4G technology works quite differently to 3G - and not many people understand how it works.
You'll see threads here on GZ complaining about how people can't us the 700MHz frequency - before they understand why that is.

The network architecture is a big point of difference - there's a big advantage to mobile carriers and their ability to manage load with 4G.
Much better than 3G.

It's easy to criticise if you don't know any different.


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  Reply # 1054673 27-May-2014 23:35
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ripdog:
coffeebaron: If you want to see congestion on 4G, then maybe Vodafone could give us all 100GB data caps for $20 per month and then you'll really know what congestion is all about :)



If capacity has increased, then hopefully this will one day lead to increased data caps.

Honestly, I've never understood 4g in NZ. 3g does video streaming, audio stream, web pages, skyping all perfectly well. Vodafone made BS ads where apprantly a rubbish youtube server was fixed by switching to 4g, when in reality 3g does 720p youtube streams perfectly well. So what is 4g for?!

You've clearly never been anywhere even slightly populated during a peak time or busy event. 3G gets absolutely hammered on all 3 networks.

 

Its all about progress. I always wonder why people ask questions "why do we need this?" when it comes to technological improvements in speed, especially for network connections.
Its about preparing for the future. Improving things before there is a problem, providing a better experience overall, and laying the foundation for new technologies and trends in these technologies. 4G tech will eventually allow us the masses to do things with their mobile devices you would have never considered.

For example, good luck having thousands in a rugby stadium streaming 1080p video replays on their mobile devices using a 3G network, because this is an example of the future we're already moving towards

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  Reply # 1054862 28-May-2014 10:46
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No doubt there's added cost in this for the carriers, so soon after launching 4G in the first place, great job at staying ahead of the game, feels like we're getting our value for money. 

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