[WXC/VFX] Fusion Unlimited

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#1089847 16-Jul-2014 11:47

RunningMan:
coffeebaron: You can still use any other router and use the AudioCodes as an ATA only. In fact I'll will probably do that for one of my small business customers (if they're allowed on this new plan).

IMHO that's a fairly expensive and underutilised ATA though.

Agree, but when it's bundled "free" or it costs an extra $21.50 per month not having it, it soon pays for itself being used as just an ATA. Problem then becomes extra cost if you already have two open VFX lines, so this makes it 3 and you lose free local calling :(
For a business not a big deal as they often pay for local calling anyway, so I just use the AudioCodes to run their fax line.

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#1089855 16-Jul-2014 11:55

coffeebaron:
Agree, but when it's bundled "free" or it costs an extra $21.50 per month not having it, it soon pays for itself being used as just an ATA.

If I've read the info correctly, the option of the extra $21.50 is also out now - there doesn't seem to be any of the old data only (naked or otherwise) plans at all. The two products offered are VFX only or Fusion Unlimited (VFX + data connection bundle).

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#1089874 16-Jul-2014 12:04

RunningMan:
coffeebaron:
Agree, but when it's bundled "free" or it costs an extra $21.50 per month not having it, it soon pays for itself being used as just an ATA.

If I've read the info correctly, the option of the extra $21.50 is also out now - there doesn't seem to be any of the old data only (naked or otherwise) plans at all. The two products offered are VFX only or Fusion Unlimited (VFX + data connection bundle).

Yea, so a bit of watch this space. There are still plenty of people that fit the lower $75 ish price point that don't need a lot of data.

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#1089906 16-Jul-2014 12:54

I've just been speaking to Xnet and they say you have to use their MP264 and it's locked down so can't do port forwarding etc - oh dear.
Now have UFB available, so very sad to say goodbye to XNET as they've been great, but control of our router is a deal-breaker.

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#1089908 16-Jul-2014 12:56

There should be no problem with doing port forwarding, only the Voice service is locked down. I will follow this up with our Team internally.

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#1089912 16-Jul-2014 12:59

craigdrown: I've just been speaking to Xnet and they say you have to use their MP264 and it's locked down so can't do port forwarding etc - oh dear.
Now have UFB available, so very sad to say goodbye to XNET as they've been great, but control of our router is a deal-breaker.

Info here on how to do this - might have been a miscommunication with whoever you spoke to?

http://help.xnet.co.nz/questions/137/Audiocodes+MP264+-+how+to+port+forward%3F

edit: fix bbcode

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#1089962 16-Jul-2014 13:57

Thanks for following up.
Just to be difficult, we actually need to use our own pfSense router. We also have OpenVPN connections, dynamic DNS, external users able to log in and configure aspects, etc.
Also, from the posts above it appears your UFB offering is 30up/30down ? Not obvious from your web site.
Thanks.

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#1089981 16-Jul-2014 14:19

When you talk about "best access speed available", does this mean that you will be able to offer LFC-specific speeds? E.g. if UFF offers 200Mbps at a low enough wholesale price, could you provide that to your UFF-connected customers?

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#1089982 16-Jul-2014 14:24

craigdrown: Also, from the posts above it appears your UFB offering is 30up/30down ? Not obvious from your web site.
Thanks.

The speed offered is 30/10 on UFB

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#1089985 16-Jul-2014 14:26

craigdrown: Thanks for following up.
Just to be difficult, we actually need to use our own pfSense router. We also have OpenVPN connections, dynamic DNS, external users able to log in and configure aspects, etc.
Also, from the posts above it appears your UFB offering is 30up/30down ? Not obvious from your web site.
Thanks.

DynDNS and remotely management isn't a problem. VPN wise it can do pass-through but no server functionality is available at this point in time.

Just to confirm the Fibre offering is currently 30Mb down 10Mb up & the Fusion Unlimited option is only available for residential services at the moment. I'm thinking you're definitely a business customer given the requirements.

In regards to the pfSense router, if it support WAN PPPoE connections it would be possible to use this device to connect, then use the MP264 as an ATA (as Coffeebaron has stated). Only issue is it results in an unsupported setup of the Fusion service - you'd need to connect the devices and deal with any possible communication issues.

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#1090006 16-Jul-2014 14:41

Just for clarity, DYNdns =\ a dynamic DNS service, which may use a different provider than DYNdns. I use afraid.org, and to automatically get that working on a router requires the ability to run scripts in the router - does the mp264 allow such?

Thanks for the port forwarding info - how about static routes? In fact, to make it easier for we geeks, any chance of posting a user manual for the mp 264, so we can ascertain for ourselves the capabilities of the firmware? Would be most helpful!

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#1090013 16-Jul-2014 14:51

These are the dydns service providers available on the MP264, static routing is supported, running scripts is not.

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#1090257 16-Jul-2014 20:44

Hi,
Thanks for the info. I did ask support if we could use our own device, and even asked if all that was needed was PPPoE on a WAN port and was told we have to use an MP264 (it does support PPPoE, which we're currently using with a Vigor ADSL modem in pass-through mode- has been rock solid).
I work in a software company, and we install pfSense on PCEngines boards at customer sites all around the world, so have to eat our own dog food, as it were.
For phones we're already on OpenVfx with Mr Biddle's script (thanks) running on Cisco SPA112s, and all working beautifully, so I presume we could take the "compulsory" MP264 and just put it in a cupboard?
As for the speed: would much prefer a faster speed with a data cap- 30/10 would be a huge jump up, but seeing there's 200/50 on offer.... Also, I get scared that with everyone on unlimited there's going to be congestion....
Thanks for replying on this forum- got further than with support calls ;-)

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#1090267 16-Jul-2014 21:15

craigdrown: Hi,
Also, I get scared that with everyone on unlimited there's going to be congestion....

Exactly what happened with the Torrent plan a few years ago. But this time from the start they state the right to throttle P2P. Also, things have changed and the international pipe is getting thicker all the time. Actually a friend in the industry says our bandwidth expansion gets sponsored by overseas companies since NZ is seen as a relatively safe/isolated country to host data backups.

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#1090365 17-Jul-2014 08:40

Hi craigdrown,

It just so happens that I did run a PCEngines Alix 2d13 with PFSense on my UFB connection as a test so I can confirm it works, but I found it more convenient to stick with the MP264 in the end (for a residential connection).

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