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TimA: https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3705339079




1. Are you stealing my Mbps?
2. How is this helping to get my TV working?

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  Reply # 1113478 22-Aug-2014 15:05
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kenkeniff:
chrispchikin: Cool, what about your test stream client - assuming its also using 192.168.1.1 as it's DNS server?

try /usr/local/etc/igmpproxy.conf

find the line with 'quickleave'

type 'dd' quickly to delete the line

type ':' then 'wq!' then press enter


Yeah my test PC is using same DNS.

Can't find that config file there either; running pfSense 2.1.4 x64


Something of note though; when streaming through HG659 I get no WAN bandwidth drop (so VF somehow magically routes it's multicast traffic so as not to affect your WAN bandwidth, something I was aware of anyway).

However when routing through pfSense the streams seem to affect my WAN bandwidth which lends me to believe I have a fundamental config error. Would be good if someone from VF could confirm whether VFTV uses a different VLAN or some other wizardry like that, or does it all just come down to setting up PCP properly?


HG659 without streaming


HG659 during streaming (same)


pfSense without streaming


pfSense during streaming <<<< (bandwidth drop)


to bring this back ontopic....


to me, that would look like your possibly streaming with a slightly wrong configuration.


i wouldnt be surprised if VFTV is served over a second vlan, have you tried using a managed switch with port mirroring to listen to the packets to check this?

if you dont have a managed switch, possibly a dumb hub should do it assuming it doesnt drop the vlan tags in the header - be it at 10mbit and probably badly..




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hio77:

to bring this back ontopic....


to me, that would look like your possibly streaming with a slightly wrong configuration.


i wouldnt be surprised if VFTV is served over a second vlan, have you tried using a managed switch with port mirroring to listen to the packets to check this?

if you dont have a managed switch, possibly a dumb hub should do it assuming it doesnt drop the vlan tags in the header - be it at 10mbit and probably badly..


I'm looking at restoring the original setup and seeing if I can figure out how take a look at things with wireshark.

Otherwise will try to pry the actual config out of the HG659 over SSH (have root access).

Any advise on either option would be much appreciated.

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kenkeniff:
hio77:

to bring this back ontopic....


to me, that would look like your possibly streaming with a slightly wrong configuration.


i wouldnt be surprised if VFTV is served over a second vlan, have you tried using a managed switch with port mirroring to listen to the packets to check this?

if you dont have a managed switch, possibly a dumb hub should do it assuming it doesnt drop the vlan tags in the header - be it at 10mbit and probably badly..


I'm looking at restoring the original setup and seeing if I can figure out how take a look at things with wireshark.

Otherwise will try to pry the actual config out of the HG659 over SSH (have root access).

Any advise on either option would be much appreciated.


ild say you have more luck with using ethereal er.. wireshark.. than the SSH access judging by last time i saw what was available - i wasnt personally digging around for things in this situation however, so your experience may vary.







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TimA: https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3705339079




1. Are you stealing my Mbps?
2. How is this helping to get my TV working?


I stole them from Outram.





 




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hio77: 
ild say you have more luck with using ethereal er.. wireshark.. than the SSH access judging by last time i saw what was available - i wasnt personally digging around for things in this situation however, so your experience may vary.


So I had the idea that I could get my server and plug NIC#1 into the ONT, NIC#2 into the WAN port of HG659, then bridge the two NIC's on Windows 8 and listen in on Wireshark... turns out not unless I'm missing something? (HG659 won't connect to internet)

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kenkeniff:
hio77: 
ild say you have more luck with using ethereal er.. wireshark.. than the SSH access judging by last time i saw what was available - i wasnt personally digging around for things in this situation however, so your experience may vary.


So I had the idea that I could get my server and plug NIC#1 into the ONT, NIC#2 into the WAN port of HG659, then bridge the two NIC's on Windows 8 and listen in on Wireshark... turns out not unless I'm missing something? (HG659 won't connect to internet)


this is something i considered late last night - dammit your giving me things to think about when i should be sleeping you see!


Windows as far as i could tell does not allow a "passthrough" persay.


thats why i suggested a managed switch with port mirroring, or a gamble of a dumb hub working(subpar may it be)




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hio77:
kenkeniff:
hio77: 
ild say you have more luck with using ethereal er.. wireshark.. than the SSH access judging by last time i saw what was available - i wasnt personally digging around for things in this situation however, so your experience may vary.


So I had the idea that I could get my server and plug NIC#1 into the ONT, NIC#2 into the WAN port of HG659, then bridge the two NIC's on Windows 8 and listen in on Wireshark... turns out not unless I'm missing something? (HG659 won't connect to internet)


this is something i considered late last night - dammit your giving me things to think about when i should be sleeping you see!


Windows as far as i could tell does not allow a "passthrough" persay.


thats why i suggested a managed switch with port mirroring, or a gamble of a dumb hub working(subpar may it be)

what if you just ask voda? or have you already tried that?




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dcole13: 
what if you just ask voda? or have you already tried that?


yes, ask vodafone how to do something that is not supported.


you will have tough picking finding the right person to ask, that will give you the answers you need, then you need to still interoperate that and implement it in pfsense's setup.


Tim has thrown in the information he had onhand, and really has given a kickstart for getting everything testing for him..




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hio77:

this is something i considered late last night - dammit your giving me things to think about when i should be sleeping you see!


Windows as far as i could tell does not allow a "passthrough" persay.


thats why i suggested a managed switch with port mirroring, or a gamble of a dumb hub working(subpar may it be)


What would Macgyver do?

I have;

 

  • a TP-Link TL-SF1005D 5-port unmanaged switch (can I throw it at a wall and make it dumb or something?)
  • a Vodafone Station SHG1500 router
  • a Netcomm NB16WV router
  • a couple of laptop and PC's (all single NIC)
  • some Cat5e + other stuff perviously described.



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kenkeniff:
hio77:

this is something i considered late last night - dammit your giving me things to think about when i should be sleeping you see!


Windows as far as i could tell does not allow a "passthrough" persay.


thats why i suggested a managed switch with port mirroring, or a gamble of a dumb hub working(subpar may it be)


What would Macgyver do?

I have;

 

  • a TP-Link TL-SF1005D 5-port unmanaged switch (can I throw it at a wall and make it dumb or something?)
  • a Vodafone Station SHG1500 router
  • a Netcomm NB16WV router
  • a couple of laptop and PC's (all single NIC)
  • some Cat5e + other stuff perviously described.


Turns out this is what: http://hackaday.com/2008/09/14/passive-networking-tap/

Hmm..

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kenkeniff:
hio77: 
ild say you have more luck with using ethereal er.. wireshark.. than the SSH access judging by last time i saw what was available - i wasnt personally digging around for things in this situation however, so your experience may vary.


So I had the idea that I could get my server and plug NIC#1 into the ONT, NIC#2 into the WAN port of HG659, then bridge the two NIC's on Windows 8 and listen in on Wireshark... turns out not unless I'm missing something? (HG659 won't connect to internet)


Only a single NIC will be provisioned on the ONT,

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kenkeniff:

Turns out this is what: http://hackaday.com/2008/09/14/passive-networking-tap/

Hmm..


see, i was going down the route of some form of routing to achieve a software based version.


Considering your using workstations, i know for a fact when bridged its noisy as hell - try perfecting a proxy when its double echoing packets everywhere...


but if you have the cable laying around, absolutely, making a passive tap would do it.


as Andrew pointed out, there can only be one device "active"




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Find a $20 machine on trademe enough to run PF sense and see if it runs better when straight on the host.




 


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