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  #92640 27-Oct-2007 11:04
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What is quite apparent though is that people with Xnet connections are having bandwidth problems with overseas hosts, while people with other connections such as Orcon, Slingshot, Xtra etc are not.

If it was a 'overseas' problem, generally speaking, it has the possibility to affect all users of that backbone provider. Other providers are not having the same issue so it suggests that either there is a problem with this internet provider, or, there is a problem with its configuation with overseas providers. Keep in mind that while speeds are a best effect service, the onus for making things work smoothly and within acceptable levels is on the ISP selling the service to the customer. Trying to dodge blame by blaming contracted service providers is just avoiding ownership of issues.

Every provider has issues time to time - it happens, no amount of fanboyism will change that. The questions that can be raised are 'Why did this happen', 'What was the fallback plan', 'Why is it taking so long to resolve this issue' etc.

I agree that speedtests are quite meaningless, however given the number of people complaining about it (on a few other forums from memory too) - there is an issue as its obviously affecting more than speedtest results. What is quite interesting is that it hasn't been given the same media attention as Go Large did (though I do notice that the media does turn a blind eye to non Vodafone/Telecom provider issues).




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  #92641 27-Oct-2007 11:31
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Adventdesigns, you're so stunningly misguided on this issue, I think you should keep your 2c out.

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  #92647 27-Oct-2007 11:41
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MikeGayner: Adventdesigns, you're so stunningly misguided on this issue, I think you should keep your 2c out.


Mike, please attack the IDEA, and not the USER!
How is what you have said any help at all?



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  #92652 27-Oct-2007 11:52
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MikeGayner: Adventdesigns, you're so stunningly misguided on this issue, I think you should keep your 2c out.

As should you, that was not at all helpful.

However, Adventdesigns it is obvious there are bandwidth issues with Xnet, this is something that quite a few people have complained about so there is no need to be making apologies for them.

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  #92661 27-Oct-2007 13:29
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You make some points worth considering, Advent, but I first realised I had a speed problem when youtube was unwatchable at night. Watching the buffer line is a good indication of the speed of the feed. During the day it races ahead but at night you are lucky if it gets ahead at all. And when you catch up with the buffer... 

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  #92662 27-Oct-2007 13:30
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edit: Heres a tip, most servers overseas will limit the speed per single connection, if you want good speeds stop using sythetic benchmarks like speedtest and get a download agent that splits the files.

That's a great solution... until you realise the problem is with SINGLE-STREAM TRAFFIC.
When you can't max out your mate's 40kBps upload cable connection when he isn't using it, and FTP shows greater speeds seconds before, or when Akamai downloads (to US servers) won't hit 30kBps, and the 100Mbits connection of my webhost (when the cable friend gets >520kBps) and I can't get 40kBps from it...

A great one is downthemall which is a plugin for firefox and is very light weight and easy to use, this will increase your speeds at night.
Yeah, once you stick on 8 connections.

And STILL don't get what I get with ONE from Recoil.

Now stop bagging xnet because your "speedtests" arnt very good, think about where your downloading from, how many other people are downloading from them etc.

Speed tests are poo. My good 'ol "dialup" could get 300kbps upload, according to them.




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  #92666 27-Oct-2007 13:48
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It is not only Xnet.
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/showthread.php?s=8a94d820bce75403ee907c29d7c6654c&threadid=282683&perpage=25&pagenumber=14

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=41&TopicId=16614

Orcon and Woosh forums show the same problems.Now the question is not who but why. Isp's will not say what is wrong. Changing providers may not help. If only someone would tell us what is happening. I phoned Woosh 3 times 3 different answers. Someone would get a lot of brownie points if they would only tell the truth. Cheers.



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  #92668 27-Oct-2007 14:27
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Maverick is back on thrusday i think.

Maybe he will see that we get a straight answer.,.....




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  #92669 27-Oct-2007 14:32
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MikeGayner: Adventdesigns, you're so stunningly misguided on this issue, I think you should keep your 2c out.

I have not read this thread in its entirety, but I have seen a LOT of comments from you that are extremely unconstructive, and constitute personal attacks.

Everyones opinion is welcome, if constructive, and on topic, which Adventdesigns was - it doesnt matter if people are wrong, and its perfectly okay to tell others that they are wrong, but you dont get to tell people to leave the thread.

If you start acting like a reasonable person, we will have zero problem, but if the remarks you keep making along the same lines (and worse), as above, keep appearing, I will have no hesitation in permanently excluding you (or anyone else), from the Geekzone forums.

It is completely possible to discuss a topic like this without making horrible off-the-cuff remarks to people.

Now.... back to our regular programming...







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#92674 27-Oct-2007 16:31
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MikeGayner: Adventdesigns, you're so stunningly misguided on this issue, I think you should keep your 2c out.


I know companies could provide faster services based on parameters, hardware, contracts - even a firmware can make a difference.

However, I don't think Advetdesigns is off the mark.




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without supporting any viewpoint   freitasm has touched on a point I raised earlier in this forum . (ie) without parameters seting both an upper and a lower limit you have no guidelines as to was is acceptable and what isn't. All existing plans only have a best endeavour to achieve the maximum with no minimum. Of recent weeks i have had some shocking download speeds . I hope the new plans when they are announced have specific service levels to make ISPs accountable as to what they deliver. Does anyone have reason to believe they are not geting what they are supposed to get? cheers George

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  #92684 27-Oct-2007 18:32
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I am assuming you would like them to provide an SLA exceeding TCNZ Wholesale's SLA for UBS? :)

Not going to happen.

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without looking at setting parameters or looking into SLA's some sort of user SLA will be inevitable if voip is going to take of and the option of g711 codecs become a reality. My guess is some of the recent problems are probably related to this ?? cheers George

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  #92690 27-Oct-2007 19:54
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Correct - its called LLU and EBA.

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  #92692 27-Oct-2007 20:10
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LLU will mean less traffic on the existing Telecom Network (I think) but what is EBA ?

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