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# 1391483 21-Sep-2015 18:53

psychowei: Anyone managed to get it working with root after yesterdays (16/8) update? rootcloak no longer working for me

Did you end up getting the app working again after this? stuck in the same issue myself..

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# 1431523 20-Nov-2015 08:40

I am planning to head back to Vodafone after about 6 months on Skinny and I have a N5 so went into the local Vodafone store to buy a SIM. It seems Semble SIM cards are free at the moment so I grabbed one even though I won't be able to use it 1) because the N5 isn't supported and 2) because I don't bank with either ASB or BNZ.

Still since the SIM will work as a regular one that is a free way to get a SIM from Vodafone.

Wonder if the N6x or 6P will be supported?

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# 1431525 20-Nov-2015 08:42

Nexus devices will most likely never work with Semble because they lack the smartcardservice required for Semble to function. :)

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# 1432083 21-Nov-2015 09:21

Will Semble still work after the KNOX warranty bit has been tripped to 0x01?

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# 1433800 24-Nov-2015 11:06

NikT: Nexus devices will most likely never work with Semble because they lack the smartcardservice required for Semble to function. :)

I don't get it. Doesn't the sim carry the smart card service? And even then, the 6P is Android Pay ready, which is the same technology, right?

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# 1433802 24-Nov-2015 11:11

JayTaicho:
NikT: Nexus devices will most likely never work with Semble because they lack the smartcardservice required for Semble to function. :)

I don't get it. Doesn't the sim carry the smart card service? And even then, the 6P is Android Pay ready, which is the same technology, right?

Nope and nope. :)

Smartcardservice is a proprietary module that allows (among other things) the secure NFC SIM element to communicate with the Semble app. Because it's proprietary, Google doesn't include it in Nexus phones.

Android Pay (and Apple Pay) do not use NFC SIMs, so don't need the service to communicate in this manner.

So, unfortunately, Nexus phones and Semble will never play nicely together in the current implementation.

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# 1433855 24-Nov-2015 12:08

NikT: Nope and nope. :)

Smartcardservice is a proprietary module that allows (among other things) the secure NFC SIM element to communicate with the Semble app. Because it's proprietary, Google doesn't include it in Nexus phones.

Android Pay (and Apple Pay) do not use NFC SIMs, so don't need the service to communicate in this manner.

So, unfortunately, Nexus phones and Semble will never play nicely together in the current implementation.

Well that sucks. Android Pay still uses built-in NFC though, right? Is Vodafone stuck with a Semble deal if/when Android Pay comes to NZ?

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# 1433858 24-Nov-2015 12:09

JayTaicho:
Well that sucks. Android Pay still uses built-in NFC though, right? Is Vodafone stuck with a Semble deal if/when Android Pay comes to NZ?

Android pay has nothing to do with the telco. Semble in NZ is unique in that it involves all the telcos and the participating banks. Its an anomaly compared with payments in the rest of the world.

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