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  # 1330293 24-Jun-2015 00:08
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Lias:
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Chinese spyware, you have been reading too much propaganda.


Mostly joking, although it's not impossible given the company ties to the PRC Military. We do know for sure that the NSA has rootkit firmware for Huawei products, I see no real reason why the PRC wouldn't have them too :-)


Be careful with assumptions or otherwise you'll end up sound like the neoconservative 'group b' back in the 1980's under Reagan that made the conclusion that if they couldn't find evidence of the Soviets doing something then it is proof that the Soviets have discovered a technology to hide it - "we can't find evidence of submarines so therefore the Soviets have invented stealth submarines".




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  # 1330333 24-Jun-2015 07:44
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In related news, Netgear have released a nice new all in one cable router. Vodafone should look at these if they want an all in one, the Netgear nighthawk range are well regarded for home users.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/netgear-ac1900-router-cable-modem-gigabit,29428.html#xtor=RSS-181






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  # 1330459 24-Jun-2015 10:10
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I've been speaking with a colleague in the team who ran the RFP process. They evaluated models from a number of suppliers. This modem outperformed a number of other options from well known brands.

Sorry but I'm not able to say more about the others considered.

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  # 1330845 24-Jun-2015 16:45
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and the wait is on for the "i told you so" thread................




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  # 1332605 27-Jun-2015 16:20
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I can understand and see why taking this route will be much better for most of the user base along with support but I was wondering if it's possible to get the previous Motorola modem on a new install? I'm a few weeks out from setting up a new cable install (moving house, keeping current cable connection at old place) and would much prefer to have just the plain 'dumb' modem and use my own reliable networking hardware.

Is this a possibility that I can request or am I stuck with the new modem?

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  # 1332609 27-Jun-2015 16:39
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Streaming: I can understand and see why taking this route will be much better for most of the user base along with support but I was wondering if it's possible to get the previous Motorola modem on a new install? I'm a few weeks out from setting up a new cable install (moving house, keeping current cable connection at old place) and would much prefer to have just the plain 'dumb' modem and use my own reliable networking hardware.

Is this a possibility that I can request or am I stuck with the new modem?


Motorolas are used on old 15/2 plans, You may want to check if you can upgrade to 50 or 100 for the same price you're paying or less.

The modem used on the 50 and 100 plans are Cisco's, these are quite similar to the motorola and are just a modem.

I'm sure there will be no problems with them giving you a cisco

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  # 1332614 27-Jun-2015 16:44
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Yabanize:
Streaming: I can understand and see why taking this route will be much better for most of the user base along with support but I was wondering if it's possible to get the previous Motorola modem on a new install? I'm a few weeks out from setting up a new cable install (moving house, keeping current cable connection at old place) and would much prefer to have just the plain 'dumb' modem and use my own reliable networking hardware.

Is this a possibility that I can request or am I stuck with the new modem?


Motorolas are used on old 15/2 plans, You may want to check if you can upgrade to 50 or 100 for the same price you're paying or less.

The modem used on the 50 and 100 plans are Cisco's, these are quite similar to the motorola and are just a modem.

I'm sure there will be no problems with them giving you a cisco


My bad there, meant the cisco one as I'm currently on the 130/10 plan - brain got stuck on motorola when I read it in an earlier post and it's confusing how to edit on a post on here!

 
 
 
 


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  # 1332615 27-Jun-2015 16:46
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Streaming: I can understand and see why taking this route will be much better for most of the user base along with support but I was wondering if it's possible to get the previous Motorola modem on a new install? I'm a few weeks out from setting up a new cable install (moving house, keeping current cable connection at old place) and would much prefer to have just the plain 'dumb' modem and use my own reliable networking hardware.

Is this a possibility that I can request or am I stuck with the new modem?


Motorolas are used on old 15/2 plans, You may want to check if you can upgrade to 50 or 100 for the same price you're paying or less.

The modem used on the 50 and 100 plans are Cisco's, these are quite similar to the motorola and are just a modem.

I'm sure there will be no problems with them giving you a cisco


If any are left in stock

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  # 1332616 27-Jun-2015 16:47
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Yabanize:
Streaming: I can understand and see why taking this route will be much better for most of the user base along with support but I was wondering if it's possible to get the previous Motorola modem on a new install? I'm a few weeks out from setting up a new cable install (moving house, keeping current cable connection at old place) and would much prefer to have just the plain 'dumb' modem and use my own reliable networking hardware.

Is this a possibility that I can request or am I stuck with the new modem?


Motorolas are used on old 15/2 plans, You may want to check if you can upgrade to 50 or 100 for the same price you're paying or less.

The modem used on the 50 and 100 plans are Cisco's, these are quite similar to the motorola and are just a modem.

I'm sure there will be no problems with them giving you a cisco


If any are left in stock


He could probably just bring his current cisco with him?

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  # 1332748 27-Jun-2015 20:11
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Lias:
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I'm not convinced that is entirely fair...
How many technicolor devices have you used, and were they simply the [cheap] ones provided by NZ ISPs?
I've had some pretty good experiences with technicolor devices, until local ISPs mess with them, lock them down, take the cheapest device and stop you from keeping firmware up to date.

You would probably get all the same "really really really crappy products" if this was done with *any* device on the market.


So you're trying to tell me that the cheap crappy technicolour device provided by this ISP is going to magically be better than all the other cheap crap technicolour devices provided by other ISP's? 

But seriously they are crap. VodaClear needs to stick with Motorola and Cisco. Preferably Cisco. Mind you Cisco need to hurry the feck up and release a DOCSIS 3 HWIC so I can just ditch whatever crud they will want to give me.


In defense of Technicolour the Spark supplied Technicolor TG582n was a rock solid modem and IMHO one of the best adsl modems that Spark ever supplied. There are literally hundreds of thousands of the suckers out there.

That being said the ones supplied after that were junk.

I agree with what everyone has said about simplicity. But.. technicolor.. really Fun times ahead.





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  # 1332936 28-Jun-2015 13:11
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Lias:
BMarquis:
I'm not convinced that is entirely fair...
How many technicolor devices have you used, and were they simply the [cheap] ones provided by NZ ISPs?
I've had some pretty good experiences with technicolor devices, until local ISPs mess with them, lock them down, take the cheapest device and stop you from keeping firmware up to date.

You would probably get all the same "really really really crappy products" if this was done with *any* device on the market.


So you're trying to tell me that the cheap crappy technicolour device provided by this ISP is going to magically be better than all the other cheap crap technicolour devices provided by other ISP's? 

But seriously they are crap. VodaClear needs to stick with Motorola and Cisco. Preferably Cisco. Mind you Cisco need to hurry the feck up and release a DOCSIS 3 HWIC so I can just ditch whatever crud they will want to give me.


In defense of Technicolour the Spark supplied Technicolor TG582n was a rock solid modem and IMHO one of the best adsl modems that Spark ever supplied. There are literally hundreds of thousands of the suckers out there.

That being said the ones supplied after that were junk.

I agree with what everyone has said about simplicity. But.. technicolor.. really Fun times ahead.


In response to that, the early technicolor always gave trouble when i was connecting to one brand of ip connected security device at mutiple sites, so based on that issue i have never been fond of equipment that wont play well with others.




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Has anyone actually used one of these devices? I'm thinking about finding out if I can get a contract again to get one installed. currently have the Cisco modem and Netcomm NF5 wifi router. 




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  # 1338072 6-Jul-2015 18:37
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I have to wonder what effect this will have on the current support policies regarding matters of CPE due to reasonable expectations of an ISP owned and managed device.

AKA, Wifi previously being a feature of a freely given device is now all of a sudden a core feature of an ISP managed service.




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lokhor: Has anyone actually used one of these devices? I'm thinking about finding out if I can get a contract again to get one installed. currently have the Cisco modem and Netcomm NF5 wifi router. 


Um yea id wait to see if there are any issues first. Id just buy a new router than have the risk of a flaky all in one.



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  # 1338332 7-Jul-2015 10:13
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lucky015: I have to wonder what effect this will have on the current support policies regarding matters of CPE due to reasonable expectations of an ISP owned and managed device.

AKA, Wifi previously being a feature of a freely given device is now all of a sudden a core feature of an ISP managed service.


ISPs have been providing all in one modems with wifi for quite some time, just not on cable. It will be much easier for support to have a router built into the modem, fewer things to rule out when troubleshooting.


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