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  Reply # 98967 8-Dec-2007 22:06

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Then why did they want both 800 and 900 spectrum? You wouldn't deploy WCDMA at both 800 and 900 because there would be a terrible handset selection. You can easily deploy GSM using 800 and 900 spectrum.


I've heard they will use VF's 2G network only until they finish their 2G network.




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  Reply # 98968 8-Dec-2007 22:11

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Out of interest what 3G spectrum do NZ Communications hold? It is at 2100 MHz?



I think it can be seen on those government web pages I saw in another forum... But since you can deploy WCDMA on many frequencies (800,900,1700,1800,1900,2100) does it matter? :)




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I was just wondering if they would try to keep things the same (which would encourage people to switch providers without changing handsets), with most 3G handsets using the 2100 MHz spectrum. Of course 850 MHz seems to be a bit of a headache for Telstra (not that they are admitting it), or maybe everyone is just jumping on the Telstra bashing bandwagon.

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  Reply # 99000 9-Dec-2007 09:54
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nzbnw:

Out of interest what 3G spectrum do NZ Communications hold? It is at 2100 MHz?



I think it can be seen on those government web pages I saw in another forum... But since you can deploy WCDMA on many frequencies (800,900,1700,1800,1900,2100) does it matter? :)


NZ Communications don't actually own any 2100MHz spectrum. In the 2000 auction Hautaki Trust were offers 15+15MHz and paid 5% less for this than the average price paid for the other 2100MHz lots. They then entered into a commercial deal with Econet to run a mobile network but ownership of the spectrum stays with the Maori Trust.

NZ Communications (I believe) still own 1800MHz GSM spectrum and obviously they will now have some 850MHz and 900MHz to go with that.

The biggest problem with dual mode networks is handset selection. There are currently 850MHz/2100MHz WCDMA handsets and 900/2100MHz WCDMA handsets but nothing that does both 850MHz and 900MHz WCDMA or tri-band WCDMA. You couldn't roll out a network using both 850MHz and 900MHz sites if there is no handsets supporting both standards. I think we'll see phones supporting tri-band WCDMA + quad band GSM become very common within 12 months and that may not be a problem but it would mean they're not going to be able to offer cheap SIM only deals to get people to move across, they would have to buy a new phone.



 

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That shouldn't be an issue when they can import hundreds of N95's and unlocked iPhones at $45 a piece from Nigeria. Payment of course would need to be through Western Union to avoid costly corrupt western officlals stealing your money!




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OMG! i totally wanted to crack that joke before but then I thought no I would get in trouble.

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Reply # 99037 9-Dec-2007 14:08

Don't worry sbiddle. By the time they will roll out their network we will have some 7-band phones on the market covering the whole frequency range.




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