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  # 1386916 13-Sep-2015 20:41
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dont bother

stick with what you have or go for RBI

weigh up how much data you use vs the speed,

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  # 1386919 13-Sep-2015 20:49
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Rikkitic:
sbiddle:

There are plenty of people seeing up to 60-80Mbps down and 20-30Mbps up on the RBI wireless network on 4G sites.




I wish. The best I get is 30 down and 20 up on Speedtest, and that is not real world.




That is you not all the user base

 
 
 
 


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  # 1387016 14-Sep-2015 09:03
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As already indicated, it looks like your are on ADSL1.


Your slow down in speed is primarily due to congestion at your exchange / cabinet.

Will a master filter help? Technically yes, but practically no. E.G. you could get an extra 10% in sync speed if your lucky, but if you are not getting your full line speed throughput anyway, then this will not equate to a 10% increase in throughput. The master filter will also reduce the error rate on your connection, so technically you could get maybe an up to 1% improvement in throughput if your line has a lot of errors, but obviously you will not really notice this gain.

If your exchange / cabinet is due to be upgraded in future, then yest a master filter is worthwhile doing either now or in future once upgraded.

If there is no upgrade coming, then RBI Wireless may be your best option. http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz/rbi-wireless.html 

Also do make sure you log a fault for this with your ISP. If it is congestion, then these calls to get logged in the Chorus system for future assessment of upgrades.






Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster and even more now as they are upgrading their rural Conklins. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend $195 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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  # 1387045 14-Sep-2015 10:09
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coffeebaron: As already indicated, it looks like your are on ADSL1.


Your slow down in speed is primarily due to congestion at your exchange / cabinet.

Will a master filter help? Technically yes, but practically no. E.G. you could get an extra 10% in sync speed if your lucky, but if you are not getting your full line speed throughput anyway, then this will not equate to a 10% increase in throughput. The master filter will also reduce the error rate on your connection, so technically you could get maybe an up to 1% improvement in throughput if your line has a lot of errors, but obviously you will not really notice this gain.

If your exchange / cabinet is due to be upgraded in future, then yest a master filter is worthwhile doing either now or in future once upgraded.

If there is no upgrade coming, then RBI Wireless may be your best option. http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz/rbi-wireless.html 

Also do make sure you log a fault for this with your ISP. If it is congestion, then these calls to get logged in the Chorus system for future assessment of upgrades.




7616 is the max sync for ADSL1 anyway. 

There would be 0 gains in every way. 

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  # 1387051 14-Sep-2015 10:25
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TimA:


7616 is the max sync for ADSL1 anyway. 

There would be 0 gains in every way. 

Correct, almost. There are some ADSL1 profiles that sync up to 8128 (or something like that); but yes most are 7xxx. I think it may still be slightly higher than 7616 though.

But bottom line, master filter won't make any noticeable difference - unless there are significant errors causing wild variation disproportionate to the wild variation congestion is causing.







Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster and even more now as they are upgrading their rural Conklins. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend $195 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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  # 1387646 15-Sep-2015 09:07
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Beenz

I think the problem you're not grasping is the exact nature of why your connection is slow. Let me try and explain.

For all DSL users (ADSL1, ADSL2, VDSL) there is the connection between their home and the cabinet or exchange, and from there a connection to the rest of the world.

In a lot of cases, the bottleneck is between the cabinet and their home. In these cases, sorting out old wiring and installing a master filter can help.

In your case, the bottleneck is the connection from your local cabinet to the rest of the world. In this case your hands are tied as any improvements between your home and the cabinet will not address that bottleneck. This is why people have mentioned your only options are either to move house or wait until the cabinet is upgraded. This is also why a master filter will likely make no difference.

Does that clear things up?

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  # 1387647 15-Sep-2015 09:08
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Oh, and of course you have the options of looking into RBI etc. but as far as DSL is concerned, there is nothing you can do.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1387648 15-Sep-2015 09:14
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Rikkitic:
sbiddle:

There are plenty of people seeing up to 60-80Mbps down and 20-30Mbps up on the RBI wireless network on 4G sites.




I wish. The best I get is 30 down and 20 up on Speedtest, and that is not real world.




This is still a fantastic speed for most people (not even taking Rural locations into account). Its basically double the effective throughput of a decent ADSL 2+ connection.



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  # 1387651 15-Sep-2015 09:20
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ghettomaster: Beenz

I think the problem you're not grasping is the exact nature of why your connection is slow. Let me try and explain.

For all DSL users (ADSL1, ADSL2, VDSL) there is the connection between their home and the cabinet or exchange, and from there a connection to the rest of the world.

In a lot of cases, the bottleneck is between the cabinet and their home. In these cases, sorting out old wiring and installing a master filter can help.

In your case, the bottleneck is the connection from your local cabinet to the rest of the world. In this case your hands are tied as any improvements between your home and the cabinet will not address that bottleneck. This is why people have mentioned your only options are either to move house or wait until the cabinet is upgraded. This is also why a master filter will likely make no difference.

Does that clear things up?


I totally understand, thank you and is there any way to find out when the cabinet will be upgraded ?

Thanks

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  # 1387721 15-Sep-2015 10:35
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its not likely to be upgraded

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  # 1387723 15-Sep-2015 10:37
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beenz:
ghettomaster: Beenz

I think the problem you're not grasping is the exact nature of why your connection is slow. Let me try and explain.

For all DSL users (ADSL1, ADSL2, VDSL) there is the connection between their home and the cabinet or exchange, and from there a connection to the rest of the world.

In a lot of cases, the bottleneck is between the cabinet and their home. In these cases, sorting out old wiring and installing a master filter can help.

In your case, the bottleneck is the connection from your local cabinet to the rest of the world. In this case your hands are tied as any improvements between your home and the cabinet will not address that bottleneck. This is why people have mentioned your only options are either to move house or wait until the cabinet is upgraded. This is also why a master filter will likely make no difference.

Does that clear things up?


I totally understand, thank you and is there any way to find out when the cabinet will be upgraded ?

Thanks


The Chorus maps site that would have told you your speed will also show you if you're in an RBI area due for a cabinet upgrade. While I was looking at this I saw no mention so suspect it's highly unlikely.



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  # 1387727 15-Sep-2015 10:56
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The population is increasing out quite rapidly so would have thought an upgrade would be on the cards.



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  # 1387749 15-Sep-2015 11:16
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So just went on the Chorus Web site and Gigatown and fibre will be available from July 2017.

Bit of a time to wait but would putting in a master filter in preparation make any difference.
I am presuming not but will ask anyway.

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  # 1387751 15-Sep-2015 11:22
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beenz: So just went on the Chorus Web site and Gigatown and fibre will be available from July 2017.

Bit of a time to wait but would putting in a master filter in preparation make any difference.
I am presuming not but will ask anyway.


Yes, A master filter for a fibre service :)


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  # 1387787 15-Sep-2015 12:23
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fibre does not need a master filter :)

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