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Khann
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  #122160 8-Apr-2008 17:25
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I believe WXC runs the Auckland server.

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  #122161 8-Apr-2008 17:26
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Khann: I believe WXC runs the Auckland server.
My bad then - I always thought NZDSL ran that one.

 
 
 
 


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  #122162 8-Apr-2008 17:33
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Citylink has the Wellington one.




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  #122172 8-Apr-2008 17:50
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You are partially wrong. Yes, Xnet does (I think) run the wellington speedtest server, but none of the others. You will notice that it detects your ISP as Xnet no matter which server you test from, so sadly that blows your theory completely out of the water.


your right, it detects the ISP. anyways, my whole point was not to try the reccomended one that speedtest.net suggest.. this was my mistake the whole time after i realised that worldxchange is the host for the speed and your really testing national traffic rather than international.

well, i suppose its time for me to shot down the computer as its close to 6pm and no use for internet as speed will drop soon.

any thoughts on ihug or other ISPs? i am thinking of changing.

thanks

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  #122178 8-Apr-2008 18:42
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PenultimateHop:
Khann:
So for someone that doesn't really understand what all this is at all, can yuo explain it in lamens terms? What does this mean for the consumer?


If this cable does get the go ahead and is built, there is now choice of fibre routes for international transit providers (like Telecom, TelstraClear, PacNet (formerly known as Asia Netcom), Verizon Business, etc) to buy services on. Southern Cross is currently the only viable international transport network out of New Zealand - and it's 50% owned by Telecom NZ.

Competition means that in theory the price of IRUs drops as the other telcos can now negotiate pricing between SX and PIPE/Kordia - which IN THEORY (big assumption!) that price of international bandwidth drops. This saving MAY be passed on to consumers, or ISPs may choose to take this as an additional profit margin, or they may use the saving to buy more bandwidth and increase the performance of services. This of course would be up to the individual ISP's business decisions.


Or you could end up with quite marginal pricing reductions and SX, PIPE/Kordia setting pricing in collusion with each other (intentionally or otherwise).

The other more intangiable benefit people are overlooking is the added resilience an additional fibre path into the country delivers. Although there are multiple points of failure on SX as far as NZ is concerned (however the implications of any single failure depend on the transit provider you are using) there have been instances where several cables have failed at the same or similar times quite recently which should be kept in mind.

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  #122179 8-Apr-2008 19:03
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Fraktul: The other more intangiable benefit people are overlooking is the added resilience an additional fibre path into the country delivers. Although there are multiple points of failure on SX as far as NZ is concerned (however the implications of any single failure depend on the transit provider you are using) there have been instances where several cables have failed at the same or similar times quite recently which should be kept in mind.

Good point regarding the alternative fibre path out of the country.  That said, given the common paths (Tasman and Pacific), I'm not sure I expect additional resiliency given the proven cuts after the Taiwan quake, and more recently in the Middle East.

Although, I am unsure what SPOFs you refer to around SX.  It's built very resiliently in and out of NZ; and there hasn't been a total outage (i.e. dual ring collapse) since 2001-ish, when it happened a few times shortly after commissioning and before the Northern Ring was completed.  The outages from an IP perspective usually happen after a single collapse and are due to transit providers not buying protected services (cost), and not having sufficient alternate paths available.

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  #122206 8-Apr-2008 21:28

Yeah well all this talk about "the future" (year 2009+) isnt really helping the present situation.



The issue is getting worse and worse. Now its not only just International traffic which is crawling, now national traffic is also at a pathetic speed.

Thats with:
Downstream Sync Rate: 7616 Kbps
Upstream Sync Rate: 896 Kbps

I can't even make calls now due to the fact its so jerky and when ever I say something it takes 3-5 seconds for the other person to hear it, and if I do ANY sort of websurfing (not heavy download, just loading google.com) during calls they hang for the entire time the webpage takes to load and then start again.

Going to xNet Fusion was the worse thing ever.
  • Slow unreliable speeds for 2 months now without any response from xNet indicating when it will be resolved.
    All they say is "We have logged a fault with telecom.", that was 2 months ago and still no change.
  • Unusable telephones due to jerky and delayed calling.

And whats worse is xNet don't even acknowledge that there is a fault with their system, sure we get the Comment from maverick which doesnt help at all. All it says is "we have a schedule in place", however that schedule must be very far apart as its been 2 months now (going on to the third) with still no sign of any resolution.

No mention of any SpeedIssues on http://xnet.co.nz

 
 
 
 


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  #122215 8-Apr-2008 21:53
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Funny that you mentioned the call quality issue, I noticed tonight that my calls sounded a bit like a poor quality cell phone conversation. Maybe thats a separate issue though as I haven't really had any problems before tonight.

My local sppeds are OK, LA is still crap.

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  #122231 9-Apr-2008 01:27
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PenultimateHop:
Fraktul: The other more intangiable benefit people are overlooking is the added resilience an additional fibre path into the country delivers. Although there are multiple points of failure on SX as far as NZ is concerned (however the implications of any single failure depend on the transit provider you are using) there have been instances where several cables have failed at the same or similar times quite recently which should be kept in mind.

Good point regarding the alternative fibre path out of the country. That said, given the common paths (Tasman and Pacific), I'm not sure I expect additional resiliency given the proven cuts after the Taiwan quake, and more recently in the Middle East.

Although, I am unsure what SPOFs you refer to around SX. It's built very resiliently in and out of NZ; and there hasn't been a total outage (i.e. dual ring collapse) since 2001-ish, when it happened a few times shortly after commissioning and before the Northern Ring was completed. The outages from an IP perspective usually happen after a single collapse and are due to transit providers not buying protected services (cost), and not having sufficient alternate paths available.


Yes that should have read "there are *not* multiple single points of failure". Failure to proof read ;)

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  #122391 9-Apr-2008 19:42
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Frown

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  #122393 9-Apr-2008 19:52
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Friend wants to give XTRA the heave after messing his email one time too many but what ISP do I tell him to go to? A while ago I would have said definitely go to Xnet. But how can I say that when he uses the computer at times when the speed is so low? Can't even begin to use the reasonable test of a Youtube stream - just doesn't work. This saga just goes on and on. Maybe a heap of us need to leave to allow the rest some bandwidth?

If there is not enough money to buy enough bandwidth, tell us how much we need to pay and let's make a decision to stay and pay or leave. Doing nothing is a very bad alternative.

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  #122398 9-Apr-2008 20:05
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linw: Youtube stream - just doesn't work. This saga just goes on and on. Maybe a heap of us need to leave to allow the rest some bandwidth?

If there is not enough money to buy enough bandwidth, tell us how much we need to pay and let's make a decision to stay and pay or leave. Doing nothing is a very bad alternative.


Well said 'linw'.
 i would be happy to pay a fraction more to have broadband we use to have...
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  #122599 10-Apr-2008 16:54
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As would most of us.




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  #122870 11-Apr-2008 15:01
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Just done a speedcheck to LA now (3pm), running at over 3500kbps. I will check again later tonight and see if it is still running at a decent speed.

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  #122874 11-Apr-2008 15:04
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marmel: Just done a speedcheck to LA now (3pm), running at over 3500kbps. I will check again later tonight and see if it is still running at a decent speed.


check at around 9pm nz, you will be way below 1000

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