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modcar
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  #131908 19-May-2008 20:59
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tis what happens when companies dont communicate with their customers.......

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  #131909 19-May-2008 21:07
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Yup you gotta laugh, here's Mavrick posting Speedtests from Xnet connections

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=65&TopicId=22002

and still this thread keeps getting dredged up.

Anyone for a nice heap of bandwidth throttling...  next gen broadband... what a bl**dy joke...

"here you go customer, here's a 100Mb connection, but your unlikely to be able to get more than 16kbps during 4pm - 12am during the week and all weekend, enjoy." <provider pats his wallet>...

Just to stay on topic, yup my connection fluctuates considerably from day to day... still, hey at least I can look forward to FTTH, then FTTH2, then FTTH2+... :P

Wonder what the next next next gen network will be?

 
 
 
 


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  #131948 19-May-2008 23:43
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exportgoldman:
I did these speed tests last Friday night, from our work connection which sync's at 11MBits, first running the test to Los Angeles under our PPP XNET Work logon, then my PPP XNET Home logon, and the speeds seem vastly different, it appears that whatever fix XNET are doing to speed up international bandwidth is done on a per PPP user logon basis.











I know that speedtest is not a great way to guage latency/pings but it woulld be interesting to run a few tracert's to is it speakeasy in the states where that LA test is run to see whether they are going over different international bandwidth providers? provising xnet still have at least two providers..

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  #133021 24-May-2008 14:43
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I want to join Xnet Fusion for the VFX but I am scared. I am currently with Orcon and enjoy very good international performance any time of the day. I also enjoy a $10 discount on my SKY startup package with my Telecom Homeline. Is it worth the risk or should I wait until Orcon bring out their own VOIP solution?



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  #133032 24-May-2008 16:28
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This problem has greatly improved to the point that is not an issue anymore thanks to the new plan xnet has recently released. I say go for it.

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  #133038 24-May-2008 17:42
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I haven't seen any recent speed tests, maybe someone with an xnet connection could help. I left a few days ago and now am with Ihug. My down stream increased by 2000kbs and upstream about the same. Speed tests to LA were similar to the post above, about twice as fast as my xnet connection.

I will miss the extra features you got with voip though but won't miss the speeds or line clarity when talking.

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  #133041 24-May-2008 17:58
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I was torrenting on mums connection since it was free leech on flacs on a tracker I use and I wanted to get as much down as possible.

Lets just say there was no worry of hitting the 10 gig limit we have on data use, and in the same time I went thru 35 gigs on slingshot
 in the same 2 and a bit days. I had to throttle utorrent to keep my national browsing working well because my linespeed is crap - mum gets just under 8 megs, so would in theory be able to do 4 times the data I can. Instead got about 10% of it.




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  #133044 24-May-2008 18:03
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Speeds aren't mindblowing by any means, but they've definitely improved enough to be able to stream YouTube and other such services without too much hassle.

LA:


NZ:

(I normally get around 5.5 - 6Mb to NZ servers.. so don't know what the deal is there)

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  #134371 30-May-2008 10:34
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Khann: Speeds aren't mindblowing by any means, but they've definitely improved enough to be able to stream YouTube and other such services without too much hassle...

Well, I've finally got back to Auckland and tried to stream YouTube at around 11pm last night on my 2Mbps connection here.  Average download speed was 253kbps which is still nowhere near what it should be.  As a result, playback paused many times during the 2 minute clip instead of just playing as it would have at this time last year.

I tried the same thing again just now and the dark red line raced ahead with a 2 minute clip being fully buffered in just 30 seconds.  According to DU Meter the average download speed was 1.3Mbps.

Obviously we are still seeing a very significant slowdown during Peak Time which brings me back to a question I raised several pages earlier in this thread:

Will the introduction of the new Torrent plan be enough to raise Peak-Time International Speeds?

At this point I would have to say it appears not, more is the pity.

To rub salt further into the wound, yesterday I received the same e-mail from Xnet regarding a forced plan change as mentioned in this thread:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=65&TopicId=22498

I have been most impressed with the level of service offered by Xnet since joining in early 2005.  It is without parallel in my experience across many different ISPs.  But this Peak-Time International slowdown is a real drawback which together with the forced plan change is causing me to re-evaluate whether I want to remain an Xnet customer.

Alternatives currently are:

-  ORCON:  Ruled out because their International Speed during the evenings seems to be even worse than Xnet.

-  VODAFONE:  Is still essentially iHUG underneath all the fancy advertising.  Do I want to risk it?  Probably not.

-  SLINGSHOT:  A possibility, but very poor customer support when I used iTalk previously has put me off.  According to a recent blog on GZ, their forums are still full of spam.

-  XTRA:  Speeds seem to have dramatically improved in recent times but they don't offer any form of Naked DSL which is a drawback.


Hmmm, what other ISPs are there which offer Naked DSL with good Peak-Time International speeds?

Any suggestions are welcome.

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  #134377 30-May-2008 10:48
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grant_k:

Will the introduction of the new Torrent plan be enough to raise Peak-Time International Speeds?

At this point I would have to say it appears not, more is the pity.


This plan was only released on monday, was it not? i think unless your a geekzone or GPforums member you'd be lucky to have even heard of it. The only place Xnet have mentioned it is a tiny blurb on their homepage (aside from the 2 forums i've noticed).

i think there's a reasonably large group of people who are waiting to see what Slingshot is offering, then making their decision. There has been a noticable difference already (earth-shattering or not), and thats just the select amount of "geeks and gamers" who've caught wind.

Fair enough if your patience has come to an end though, all the major ISP players have their drawbacks, will be interesting to see if there is a relatively unknown/darkhorse with something worthwhile up their sleeves flying under the radar.

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  #134389 30-May-2008 11:10
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Thanks Stu for your comments Smile

testing123: This plan was only released on monday, was it not?

Maverick first announced the availability of this plan on May 20 which is 10 days ago now. 

testing123: i think unless your a geekzone or GPforums member you'd be lucky to have even heard of it. The only place Xnet have mentioned it is a tiny blurb on their homepage (aside from the 2 forums i've noticed).

Yes indeed.  It hasn't been widely publicised as yet, although word gets around quickly amongst the heavy users who always have their ear to the ground for word of a better deal.

testing123: i think there's a reasonably large group of people who are waiting to see what Slingshot is offering, then making their decision.

That's a very valid point I agree.  Slingshot have been holding back on detail after stating some time back that a competing plan to Xnet's Torrent was in the works.  I will definitely wait to see what is on offer before making my decision, although I would be reluctant to go that way because of a previous bad experience as mentioned above. 

testing123: There has been a noticable difference already (earth-shattering or not), and thats just the select amount of "geeks and gamers" who've caught wind.

Agreed, there has been a small improvement because my YouTube speed was down to 130kbps or so earlier this month.  However, 250kbps still doesn't cut the mustard as there are plenty of other ISPs who can offer much better Peak-Time International speeds.  However, none of them (that I am aware of) seem to offer Naked DSL as yet.

testing123: Fair enough if your patience has come to an end though, all the major ISP players have their drawbacks, will be interesting to see if there is a relatively unknown/darkhorse with something worthwhile up their sleeves flying under the radar.

My patience hasn't quite come to an end as the plan I am on will keep running until June 30 before Xnet pulls the plug on it.  I will be away for most of the first half of June anyway so will wait until around June 20 before deciding which way to jump.

Once again, thanks for the points you have raised Smile

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  #134522 30-May-2008 21:05
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grant_k: However, 250kbps still doesn't cut the mustard


Two tests does not give a reliable statistical confidence.  A rule of thumb is that 20 tests give you 95% confidence in the result.  It can be that when you tried last night there was work being done on your exchange, or someone's modem went crazy with lots of cross-talk to your line, or the YouTube site was flooded, or international speed was slow in general for the whole country, or a butterfly was flapping it's wings in Denmark.




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  #134537 30-May-2008 22:45
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Niel: Two tests does not give a reliable statistical confidence.  A rule of thumb is that 20 tests give you 95% confidence in the result.

I didn't only do two tests.  250kbps was a representative average over many clips that I looked at.

I have tried again just now and it's reading 274kbps.  A little better than last night, but still not good enough really.

Niel: It can be that when you tried last night there was work being done on your exchange, or someone's modem went crazy with lots of cross-talk to your line

Work being done on the exchange at 11pm Undecided Yeah right!

Niel: Or the YouTube site was flooded, or international speed was slow in general for the whole country, or a butterfly was flapping it's wings in Denmark.

As you say, it can be a lot of things but two things are for certain:

-  During the day, speeds are much faster
-  People I know that are using other ISPs don't have this night-time slow down problem on YouTube Tongue out

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  #134565 31-May-2008 10:11
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grant_k:
Khann: Speeds aren't mindblowing by any means, but they've definitely improved enough to be able to stream YouTube and other such services without too much hassle...

Well, I've finally got back to Auckland and tried to stream YouTube at around 11pm last night on my 2Mbps connection here.  Average download speed was 253kbps which is still nowhere near what it should be.  As a result, playback paused many times during the 2 minute clip instead of just playing as it would have at this time last year.

I tried the same thing again just now and the dark red line raced ahead with a 2 minute clip being fully buffered in just 30 seconds.  According to DU Meter the average download speed was 1.3Mbps.

Obviously we are still seeing a very significant slowdown during Peak Time which brings me back to a question I raised several pages earlier in this thread:

Will the introduction of the new Torrent plan be enough to raise Peak-Time International Speeds?

At this point I would have to say it appears not, more is the pity.

To rub salt further into the wound, yesterday I received the same e-mail from Xnet regarding a forced plan change as mentioned in this thread:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=65&TopicId=22498

I have been most impressed with the level of service offered by Xnet since joining in early 2005.  It is without parallel in my experience across many different ISPs.  But this Peak-Time International slowdown is a real drawback which together with the forced plan change is causing me to re-evaluate whether I want to remain an Xnet customer.

Alternatives currently are:

-  ORCON:  Ruled out because their International Speed during the evenings seems to be even worse than Xnet.

-  VODAFONE:  Is still essentially iHUG underneath all the fancy advertising.  Do I want to risk it?  Probably not.

-  SLINGSHOT:  A possibility, but very poor customer support when I used iTalk previously has put me off.  According to a recent blog on GZ, their forums are still full of spam.

-  XTRA:  Speeds seem to have dramatically improved in recent times but they don't offer any form of Naked DSL which is a drawback.


Hmmm, what other ISPs are there which offer Naked DSL with good Peak-Time International speeds?

Any suggestions are welcome.

JUPITER2K
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  #134567 31-May-2008 10:15
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Alternatives currently are:

-  ORCON:  Ruled out because their International Speed during the evenings seems to be even worse than Xnet.

-  VODAFONE:  Is still essentially iHUG underneath all the fancy advertising.  Do I want to risk it?  Probably not.

-  SLINGSHOT:  A possibility, but very poor customer support when I used iTalk previously has put me off.  According to a recent blog on GZ, their forums are still full of spam.

-  XTRA:  Speeds seem to have dramatically improved in recent times but they don't offer any form of Naked DSL which is a drawback.


Hmmm, what other ISPs are there which offer Naked DSL with good Peak-Time International speeds?

Any suggestions are welcome.


Sorry my previous reply was mess up.

Anyway what about Slingshot peaktime streaming?

As I see it Slingshot is the only ISP that will try to match or compete with Xnet.

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