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  Reply # 1675985 23-Nov-2016 13:03
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Sideface:

 

@dbs   Having just made the same "upgrade", I would strongly advise you to wait.

 

On "FibreX" I am getting really good speed tests - but my real-world internet performance is now significantly worse than on the old plan.

 

The only real advantage is the higher upstream speed, which may or may not be important to you.

 

I will PM you later this morning with details.

 

 

I have heard this from a few people.  My speedtest seems to start off average but then gets up to speed.  It is nearly as if there is some traffic management around speed tests to produce good results.  I don't however have the skills or know how to provide and proof.  Is anyone testing and feeding info back to vodafone?

 

PS I have noticed some page loads stalling occasionally but then see that youtube preforms really well.

 

 





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  Reply # 1676036 23-Nov-2016 13:51
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Congestion on speedtest link and that is all

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  Reply # 1676121 23-Nov-2016 14:44
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So have last weeks earthquakes knocked around the 3-day to delivery promise? is that promise officially rescinded?





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  Reply # 1676170 23-Nov-2016 15:22
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Linux: Congestion on speedtest link and that is all

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Are you saying that congestion on speedtest is causing it to start slow and then ramp up later?  And if so do you believe there are no real world issues with FibreX?





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  Reply # 1676198 23-Nov-2016 16:12
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Linux: Congestion on speedtest link and that is all

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Are you saying that congestion on speedtest is causing it to start slow and then ramp up later?  And if so do you believe there are no real world issues with FibreX?

 

 

1Gb link for speedtest.net is congested I know that

 

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  Reply # 1676296 23-Nov-2016 18:44
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kharris:

Sideface:


@dbs   Having just made the same "upgrade", I would strongly advise you to wait.


On "FibreX" I am getting really good speed tests - but my real-world internet performance is now significantly worse than on the old plan.


The only real advantage is the higher upstream speed, which may or may not be important to you.


I will PM you later this morning with details.



I have heard this from a few people.  My speedtest seems to start off average but then gets up to speed.  It is nearly as if there is some traffic management around speed tests to produce good results.  I don't however have the skills or know how to provide and proof.  Is anyone testing and feeding info back to vodafone?


PS I have noticed some page loads stalling occasionally but then see that youtube preforms really well.


 



I can definitely back up Sideface, but I came from 50/2 to 200/20.
So on a whole I am getting close to the same and sometimes more speed than before.

Certain downloads are ALWAYS slow, as if they're shaped or limited. I actually suspect a transparent proxy of some sort.

I noticed HTTP/HTTPS downloads, which always go 30-50Mbps, actually come from a Vodafone IP rather than the actual source.

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  Reply # 1676299 23-Nov-2016 18:47
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kharris:

 

Linux: Congestion on speedtest link and that is all

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Are you saying that congestion on speedtest is causing it to start slow and then ramp up later?  And if so do you believe there are no real world issues with FibreX?

 

 

1Gb link for speedtest.net is congested I know that

 

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Prob explain why I get better results from ACSData


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  Reply # 1676339 23-Nov-2016 19:43
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DjShadow:

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Prob explain why I get better results from ACSData.



My problem is the opposite - I get really "good" speed tests from Vodafone servers, and much worse results from ACSData servers.

 

Which ones to believe?

 

Unfortunately my real-world performance (downloads and page loading) tends to match the ACSData results (see my post of 17 November).   undecided

 

Despite a "200/20Mbps" connection I now typically get 25 to 50Mbps downstream between 9am and 9pm. (using the supplied HG659 router via ethernet)

 

On my old 100/10Mbps connection I typically got much better real-world speeds.

 

Executive Summary: Excellent speed tests, but actual performance is now worse than before the "upgrade".

 

Presumably the Vodafone network gives priority to traffic going to their speed-testing servers.  (Other ISPs do the same thing for their own traffic).

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1676504 23-Nov-2016 23:43
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DjShadow:

 

Prob explain why I get better results from ACSData

 

 

Strangely I get good results to Vodafone Wellington over my laptop and Apple TV's (Wifi) ~ 200/20

 

But with my iPhone 7 using the speedtest app I can only get about 180 down to Vodafone Wellington but I consistently get > 200 when going to ACSData.

 

Can someone explain why I would be getting better results to ACSData on my phone when the other devices seem fine to Vodafone Wellington.





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  Reply # 1676688 24-Nov-2016 12:51
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kharris:

DjShadow:


Prob explain why I get better results from ACSData



Strangely I get good results to Vodafone Wellington over my laptop and Apple TV's (Wifi) ~ 200/20


But with my iPhone 7 using the speedtest app I can only get about 180 down to Vodafone Wellington but I consistently get > 200 when going to ACSData.


Can someone explain why I would be getting better results to ACSData on my phone when the other devices seem fine to Vodafone Wellington.


We could start some (more) unsubstantiated conspiracy theories - the iPhone is programmed to under-perform on anything that includes the name a telco other than the big US networks? Ghost of Jobs? Black magic?
What exactly does the speedtest measure?

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  Reply # 1676704 24-Nov-2016 13:12
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SteveC: What exactly does the speedtest measure?


What do you mean?




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  Reply # 1676714 24-Nov-2016 13:38
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kharris:
SteveC: What exactly does the speedtest measure?

What do you mean?

Reflecting on earlier discussions in this forum - We know that x bits are travelling back and forth, but what, if anything, does that tell us about the Real World?
Perhaps the speedtest is only marginally more useful than my conspiracy theories?

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So like many others I am having the same issues, my speed tests are mostly good, but boy are they inconsistent. Highest is 920/93 Mb/s but I then repeat seconds later and will get 450/89 Mb/s. It varies wildly. Then real world performance varies also. I am currently downloading a game from Steam at 970 bytes/s, yes BYTES! Not even 1MB, hell not even 1 KB! It started average and ramped up to 29.8MB/s, then plummeted down to where its at now and with only 100MB to go its going to take 15 days. I have used the supplied router and now using my Asus RT-N56U with the same results. I should point out that yesterday morning I was on 100/10MB/s Cable and "Upgraded" to FibreX in the arvo. 100/10 worked amazing for me, 100% always 24/7 got 101/10MB/s even during the congestion woes. 

 

EA Origin works pretty good with a mostly consistent 37 MB/s download speed, but maybe expected it to be a little higher?

 

A torrent with over 1000 seeders and 90 leechers reached a lousy 1.9MB/s. It took 5min 15sec to complete and was only 384MB large

 

Youtube at 4k/60fps work good with no buffering (on a 1080p screen screen, not sure if it matters?)

 

A 4k Video file from digitalfoundry.net 823 MB/s took around 7 seconds - https://www.digitalfoundry.net/2016-11-07-free-sample-video-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-ps4-pro-vs-titan-x-pascal

 

Overall I am not very happy and prefer my old consistent connection. I had fibre in my old house, with 100/50 MB/s and it worked great, all the time, with consistent speed test and real world performance. So at this stage I will be signing up for fibre as soon as its in my street.

 

 

 

Speed Test Results on 25-Nov 2016

 

Vodafone Wellington v v v

 

 

ACSData v v v

 

 

Vodafone Sydney v v v

 

 

San Fran US v v v

 


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  Reply # 1677449 25-Nov-2016 14:21
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As pointed out in this thread the speedtest.net is 1Gb link and is getting smashed so results will be varied this is 100% expected,

Planned upgrade to 10Gb is coming

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  Reply # 1677470 25-Nov-2016 15:16
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Linux: As pointed out in this thread the speedtest.net is 1Gb link and is getting smashed so results will be varied this is 100% expected,

Planned upgrade to 10Gb is coming

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Its not about speedtest results...its about real results where downloading from overseas seems slower than ever.

 

Its about international shaping that is now massive compared to before gigabit.


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