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  # 128240 3-May-2008 17:57
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Yep, Great Idea Vodafone UK - 500mb of data for everyone on a plan..

I wish they would do the same here and I would then go off prepay onto a plan as I'm sure a lot of prepay users would.
Right now there is no incentive to go on a plan for me as I have to pay plan charges a month plus data ontop ..

I wonder if Vfone UK has the same percentage of prepay users compared to account as NZ does ?
If they do it gets more on account and monthly payments coming in..

Just knowing you had that amount a month to use even if you didn't use it would encourage people to use the internet on their mobiles and it would also get more onto monthly plans which I'm sure would make them more money..

say the customer base is 100,000 for example:
100,000 users on account paying $50 a month = $5,000,000 a month coming in every month

instead of:
30,000 users on account paying $50 a month = $1,500,000 coming in every month
70,000 users on prepay paying when they run out $unknown a month but certainly less than above I'd imagine ...

But then again perhaps I'm thinking about it wrongly .. They must be making enough out of it all now so no change ..

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I would say the number of people on plan is much higher in the UK - they offer amazing deals on handsets with contracts (at least amazing by New Zealand standards).

For instance one of my buddies at Symbian-Freak got his N95 free on contract, and he can upgrade handsets every 3 months to anything else he wants for free... His contract isn't bad either - unlimited data for 7.50pounds (will have to ask him about it, I think his 'unlimited' data was actually capped to 500MB, so he may now be getting this free).




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NZtechfreak: I would say the number of people on plan is much higher in the UK - they offer amazing deals on handsets with contracts (at least amazing by New Zealand standards).

For instance one of my buddies at Symbian-Freak got his N95 free on contract, and he can upgrade handsets every 3 months to anything else he wants for free... His contract isn't bad either - unlimited data for 7.50pounds (will have to ask him about it, I think his 'unlimited' data was actually capped to 500MB, so he may now be getting this free).


Exactly, get more people onto monthly plans and your monthly income goes up.
 
I used to own a small ISP in OZ for 8 years and we just loved people on monthly accounts - (regular monthly income ) 
We bought in pay as you use Internet 45 hourly plans with a one year expiry and when some of our monthly customers moved to them we sure noticed the drop in income ..

It was prepay internet with a one year expiry ( just like prepay mobile with a one year expiry).

I also got a shock when I came back to NZ from OZ in 2002 and had to buy a phone,
If you are on a plan in OZ phones are free as part of the plan and all sorts of incentives to stay on it as well.

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  # 128260 3-May-2008 18:49
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Companies are testing this here now - but not Vodafone NZ. Telecom is doing their "free email Internet access" with a fair use policy. It means no charges for data if you have an account and a specific handset model. And no surprises in your bill.

I can't say exactly how much is their fair use, but they imagine the plan being used by poeple for email, downloading some attachments and some light browsing on the device itself. Not for modem use.

I haven't heard anything from Vodafone NZ. I haven't anything from Vodafone NZ in any front anyway.





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I like Telecom's initiative, sure its not for modem use (and certainly not my kind of use!), but its still a step forward for NZ.

I would imagine that the carriers experience would mirror that overseas if they increase the uptake of mobile data with offers like Telecoms; they'd make more money.

Its entirely possible that we need the iPhone to be released here to really wake the public up. Data revenue increased dramatically overseas on release of the iPhone. Its not the iPhone is really anything special from a capabilities perspective (much more limited than a number of other phones that can be purchased for less money), just that it looms large in the publics consciousness and really opened peoples minds to the possibilities out there for mobile phone use. Its ironic that the iPhone is probably the best thing that ever happened for Nokia's N-Series, but there you have it (and I digress).




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cafeg: Yep, Great Idea Vodafone UK - 500mb of data for everyone on a plan..

I wish they would do the same here and I would then go off prepay onto a plan as I'm sure a lot of prepay users would.
Right now there is no incentive to go on a plan for me as I have to pay plan charges a month plus data ontop ..

I wonder if Vfone UK has the same percentage of prepay users compared to account as NZ does ?
If they do it gets more on account and monthly payments coming in..


According to my mate over there, they have massive handset subsidys so most people are on a plan. Prepay is reserved for the "chav's" and illegal workers from the recharge sales they see in their shop.

He picked up an older style N95 for nothing on a 30 pound a month plan which has more mins and texts then anything from vodafone nz. Not sure of the term but he is leaving the UK when his visa is up so it doesnt really matter.




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richms:

According to my mate over there, they have massive handset subsidys so most people are on a plan. Prepay is reserved for the "chav's" and illegal workers from the recharge sales they see in their shop.

He picked up an older style N95 for nothing on a 30 pound a month plan which has more mins and texts then anything from vodafone nz. Not sure of the term but he is leaving the UK when his visa is up so it doesnt really matter.


From memory I got a $600NZD free for the first contract I had (about 25 quid a month) and then as that came up for renewal, after threatening vodafone uk that I was going to another telco (and several phone calls from senior reps) then agreed to give me whatever phone I wanted including whatever N series phone was flavour of the month back then.

You should get your mate to flog off his old phones to you. The telcos never want them back after the users been upgraded.

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