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  # 143653 7-Jul-2008 11:17
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mcraenz: Why does everyone seem to think they will realease the price before Friday? I thought that's someothng that would be announced at the product launch?


I can't imagine many people would be prepared to line up to buy a product that they don't know the price of!




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  # 143654 7-Jul-2008 11:19
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mcraenz: Why does everyone seem to think they will realease the price before Friday? I thought that's someothng that would be announced at the product launch?

That's ridiculous. People do not wait until they're standing in line to buy a product to then hear its price. What if it were $3,000 for the phone? That'd be a terrible PR stunt when every customer in the line says "forget it!" and walks off disgruntled.

Even for the 1st gen iPhone, Apple released pricing info months before the product was released.

 
 
 
 


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  # 143656 7-Jul-2008 11:25
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amanzi:
mcraenz: Why does everyone seem to think they will realease the price before Friday? I thought that's someothng that would be announced at the product launch?


All the other Telcos have announced their plans already, not sure why Vodafone haven't yet. I hope they have the goods to back up all the hype they are creating.


Possibly because there plans cost so much and data rates are so bad.

The media will run any news on the iPhone at the moment. If they were to release the price for plans and data now it is likely the media will run a comparison with other countries and draw attention to the fact that New Zealanders pay some of the highest mobile rates in the world.

If voda delay the release of pricing information till as close as possible to July 11, they increase the chances that the media will run stories on the release of the phone and not concentrate on the price disparity.

Dont forget these duopoly's are pros at raping us.

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  # 143657 7-Jul-2008 11:36
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amanzi:
mcraenz: Why does everyone seem to think they will realease the price before Friday? I thought that's someothng that would be announced at the product launch?


All the other Telcos have announced their plans already, not sure why Vodafone haven't yet. I hope they have the goods to back up all the hype they are creating.


Possibly because there plans cost so much and data rates are so bad.

The media will run any news on the iPhone at the moment. If they were to release the price for plans and data now it is likely the media will run a comparison with other countries and draw attention to the fact that New Zealanders pay some of the highest mobile rates in the world.

If voda delay the release of pricing information till as close as possible to July 11, they increase the chances that the media will run stories on the release of the phone and not concentrate on the price disparity.

Dont forget these duopoly's are pros at raping us.

Before everyone gets too hot under the collar, can I point out that none of the worldwide Vodafone branches have released plans.

None.

I suspect there is a worldwide coordinated release. I don't think VFNZ is doing what you say above. Cast your mind back to Paul Brislens initial comments.

He has had a shocker if the plans are useless, considering his choice of words such as "gleeful news" and the level of hype he built up before going away.

I remain hopeful.



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# 143659 7-Jul-2008 11:41
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alsta:

Before everyone gets too hot under the collar, can I point out that none of the worldwide Vodafone branches have released plans.

None.

Ahem...

Vodafone Italy have.




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  # 143663 7-Jul-2008 11:48
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alsta:
imadog:
Possibly because there plans cost so much and data rates are so bad.

The media will run any news on the iPhone at the moment. If they were to release the price for plans and data now it is likely the media will run a comparison with other countries and draw attention to the fact that New Zealanders pay some of the highest mobile rates in the world.

If voda delay the release of pricing information till as close as possible to July 11, they increase the chances that the media will run stories on the release of the phone and not concentrate on the price disparity.

Dont forget these duopoly's are pros at raping us.

Before everyone gets too hot under the collar, can I point out that none of the worldwide Vodafone branches have released plans.

None.

I suspect there is a worldwide coordinated release. I don't think VFNZ is doing what you say above. Cast your mind back to Paul Brislens initial comments.

He has had a shocker if the plans are useless, considering his choice of words such as "gleeful news" and the level of hype he built up before going away.

I remain hopeful.




Abandon all hope now ;)

Only a few weeks ago there was a quote from a vodafone rep in stuff in relation to the new $1 daily data rate.

"Shalfoon said the new plans wouldn't be loss-making and there was no plans to change the fixed rates plans designed for heavy data users."

LINKL http://www.stuff.co.nz/4591136a18335.html

This was June 20th and I would find it a little misleading if they did come out with new data rates now. He / she unequivocally states there are not plans for changing fixed rate plans. Pricing for mobile services are done locally so I doubt they could claim head office (wherever that is around the world) kept them in the dark about a new price / data rate.

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  # 143666 7-Jul-2008 11:52
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imadog:Abandon all hope now ;)

Only a few weeks ago there was a quote from a vodafone rep in stuff in relation to the new $1 daily data rate.

"Shalfoon said the new plans wouldn't be loss-making and there was no plans to change the fixed rates plans designed for heavy data users."

LINKL http://www.stuff.co.nz/4591136a18335.html

This was June 20th and I would find it a little misleading if they did come out with new data rates now. He / she unequivocally states there are not plans for changing fixed rate plans. Pricing for mobile services are done locally so I doubt they could claim head office (wherever that is around the world) kept them in the dark about a new price / data rate.

I think that was about changing the current plans for current devices, and not about making new ones for the iPhone... keep that hope up!




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  # 143723 7-Jul-2008 13:00
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Ive been a long time lurker so forgive me if I say something stupid but after hearing the same rumours as you all (in that the phone will be 1200 and the data plans 100+) and after reading 25 pages I havent yet seen the question asked.

Does anyone have a good reason to not believe Paul when he says the price will be 'nice' and, as recently mentioned, the plans being 'gleefulll' ?

I mean, do we really all believe the tripe we get told when we call Vodafone or ask one of the reps in the shops over someone who makes the effort to be invovled on this forum, who knows exactly what peoples expectations are going to be and how annoyed people will be should Vodafone not come to the party with the capabilities that this phone can offer ?

I was in the UK many years ago when manufacturers started subsidising the price of handsets and it blow the market to pieces. Suddlenly prices plummeted and free minutes across networks came about and the uptake was phenominal. I see the same potential here so what does it do to all of Vodafones current handsets if they offer an iphone that does everything for only $400 ?

I recently bought a 16gb ipod touch (just before the iphone release was announced) but Ive sold it as quickly as possible because when the iphone comes out the ipod will be worthless. Who will pay $500 for an ipod when you can get an iphone for less?

So with that in mind should Vodafone sell the iphone relatively cheaply (when compared to the N95 for example) it could blow the market away, so is it any surprise its taken this long to get sorted?

Perhaps Im being too optimistic, possibly even naive given how Telecom and Vodafone monopolise the market with lilttle or no effort  on their parts to give us the same benefits as available around the world. But Im willing to listen to Paul over the CSR's who probably know less than my 5 year old, so Im keeping my fingers crossed.

I wonder if I can convince my 5 year old to stand outside the shop all night, he probablly would if I offered to double he $3 pocket money for the week ;)






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  # 143728 7-Jul-2008 13:07
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martyyn: Ive been a long time lurker so forgive me if I say something stupid but after hearing the same rumours as you all (in that the phone will be 1200 and the data plans 100+) and after reading 25 pages I havent yet seen the question asked.

Does anyone have a good reason to not believe Paul when he says the price will be 'nice' and, as recently mentioned, the plans being 'gleefulll' ?

I mean, do we really all believe the tripe we get told when we call Vodafone or ask one of the reps in the shops over someone who makes the effort to be invovled on this forum, who knows exactly what peoples expectations are going to be and how annoyed people will be should Vodafone not come to the party with the capabilities that this phone can offer ?

I was in the UK many years ago when manufacturers started subsidising the price of handsets and it blow the market to pieces. Suddlenly prices plummeted and free minutes across networks came about and the uptake was phenominal. I see the same potential here so what does it do to all of Vodafones current handsets if they offer an iphone that does everything for only $400 ?

I recently bought a 16gb ipod touch (just before the iphone release was announced) but Ive sold it as quickly as possible because when the iphone comes out the ipod will be worthless. Who will pay $500 for an ipod when you can get an iphone for less?

So with that in mind should Vodafone sell the iphone relatively cheaply (when compared to the N95 for example) it could blow the market away, so is it any surprise its taken this long to get sorted?

Perhaps Im being too optimistic, possibly even naive given how Telecom and Vodafone monopolise the market with lilttle or no effort  on their parts to give us the same benefits as available around the world. But Im willing to listen to Paul over the CSR's who probably know less than my 5 year old, so Im keeping my fingers crossed.

I wonder if I can convince my 5 year old to stand outside the shop all night, he probablly would if I offered to double he $3 pocket money for the week ;)






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  # 143775 7-Jul-2008 14:00
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This Friday 11 July at 00:01am, the new iPhone 3G hits the shelves in three Vodafone stores nationwide. They are:       
       
Vodafone - 171 Queen St, Auckland City       
Vodafone - 358 Lampton Quay, Wellington       
Vodafone - 681 Colombo St, Christchurch       
       
The iPhone 3G will be available in other Vodafone stores from 9am, check out the stores map for locations at     http://www.vodafone.co.nz/maps/iphone-stores.jsp      
 
You'll also be able to buy from the Vodafone Online Shop on Friday 11 July at 00:01am.       
       
The iPhone 3G starts from $199 on a two year contract.       

We'll be releasing full price and plan details tomorrow at 10am, Tuesday 8 July 2008, at    http://www.vodafone.co.nz/iphone        
       
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  # 143778 7-Jul-2008 14:04
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This Friday 11 July at 00:01am, the new iPhone 3G hits the shelves in three Vodafone stores nationwide. They are:       
       
Vodafone - 171 Queen St, Auckland City       
Vodafone - 358 Lampton Quay, Wellington       
Vodafone - 681 Colombo St, Christchurch       
       
The iPhone 3G will be available in other Vodafone stores from 9am, check out the stores map for locations at     http://www.vodafone.co.nz/maps/iphone-stores.jsp      
 
You'll also be able to buy from the Vodafone Online Shop on Friday 11 July at 00:01am.       
       
The iPhone 3G starts from $199 on a two year contract.       

We'll be releasing full price and plan details tomorrow at 10am, Tuesday 8 July 2008, at    http://www.vodafone.co.nz/iphone        
       
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So tomorrow at 10am all plans will be revealed... will be interesting to see if they live up to the hype...

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  # 143783 7-Jul-2008 14:07
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amanzi:

So tomorrow at 10am all plans will be revealed... will be interesting to see if they live up to the hype...


But, is the hype Vodafone generated, or is it all generated here? :)




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  # 143787 7-Jul-2008 14:11
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amanzi:

So tomorrow at 10am all plans will be revealed... will be interesting to see if they live up to the hype...


But, is the hype Vodafone generated, or is it all generated here? :)


Vodafone generated the hype by keeping quiet about it for so long. But yes, we may have added to it a bit.

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  # 143813 7-Jul-2008 14:32
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Wow. Not one single store in all of Hawke's Bay will be stocking the iPhone according to that site.. just as well I'm in Auckland that weekend for Barcamp.




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  # 143832 7-Jul-2008 14:57
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PostmanPatsCat: Just as well I'm not keen on a contract. I'm waiting for the disconnect fees!


They deactivate the phone if you deactivate the plan.

Here's another thing that I was able to gather from what I was told about plans:

Vodafone has already thought of everything, so don't even bother.




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