Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 
198 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 9

Trusted

  Reply # 136670 9-Jun-2008 14:54
Send private message

langi27:
Does Telstraclear truly beleive that paying $229 per month for their Wrapspeed 25MB/s and 120GB datacap represents true value for money........when Vodafone who can offer somewhere close to half (10MB/s as an actual and 8.5MB/s as usable) for 1/3 the price?


Not a fair comparison, since the data caps are vastly different. Best comparison would be Voda Ultimate: $90 for 20GB, with another 20GB for $30. Assuming you can purchase as many 20GB packs at $30 each as you want (the web site is not clear on this), then the equivalet of the TCL WarpSpeed plan costs $240 vs WarpSpeed at $229.

Assuming only 10M is actually acheived on the ADSL2+ network, then the baseline Voda Ultimate pack at $90 for 20G compares with TCL LightSpeed 20G at $69.95 for 10Mbps and 20GB).

324 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 5


  Reply # 136674 9-Jun-2008 15:09
Send private message

Agree not fair comparison, but I'm not in the market for 120GB data cap, TLC arn't going to give me a discount for every 20GB I don't use, if I want more data i'd prefer the Vodafone model where you buy extra data packets....... bottom line is that I want 25MB/s, I don't want to pay $229 per month.

Can VF give me ADSL2+ Speeds?...not yet but soon.

Is their pricing competitivate? it appears so.

Will I switch? depends if TLC can drop their very expensive 25MB/s plan.

Don't get me wrong I like TLC, I think they provide a very good service. I just want to see action action action.

 
 
 
 


64 posts

Master Geek

Trusted
TelstraClear

  Reply # 136675 9-Jun-2008 15:09
Send private message

As I said, I cannot comment on the future product side of things. Plans will obviously evolve going forward.




---
http://olofolsson.com/

4659 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 71

Trusted

  Reply # 136727 9-Jun-2008 18:10
Send private message

michaeln:
langi27:
Does Telstraclear truly beleive that paying $229 per month for their Wrapspeed 25MB/s and 120GB datacap represents true value for money........when Vodafone who can offer somewhere close to half (10MB/s as an actual and 8.5MB/s as usable) for 1/3 the price?


Not a fair comparison, since the data caps are vastly different. Best comparison would be Voda Ultimate: $90 for 20GB, with another 20GB for $30. Assuming you can purchase as many 20GB packs at $30 each as you want (the web site is not clear on this), then the equivalet of the TCL WarpSpeed plan costs $240 vs WarpSpeed at $229.

Assuming only 10M is actually acheived on the ADSL2+ network, then the baseline Voda Ultimate pack at $90 for 20G compares with TCL LightSpeed 20G at $69.95 for 10Mbps and 20GB).


Mike

Can you verify or deny my comment about it would be hard for TCL to unbundle because their architecture is not the same as Telecom's - that is it's a cabinetised type structure, rather than local Exchanges where a competitor could put in their own DSLAMs?

I would imagine it would even be harder to tap into the cable network?




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR running on Gigabyte Brix, Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Logitech Revue, Pioneer AVR, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player, Samsung 4K player

 


My Google+ page 

 

 

 

https://plus.google.com/+laurencechiu

 

 


2206 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 623

Trusted

  Reply # 136803 9-Jun-2008 22:08
Send private message

lchiu7: Can you verify or deny my comment about it would be hard for TCL to unbundle because their architecture is not the same as Telecom's - that is it's a cabinetised type structure, rather than local Exchanges where a competitor could put in their own DSLAMs?

I would imagine it would even be harder to tap into the cable network?


I know TCL do wholesale their Cable network, as Xtreme and SNAP both on-sell their cable services.  It's all routed via the internal HFC network, then out via the other provider, there is no chance that anyone else would get a crack directly at TCL's HFC network, and their copper network is only good for analogue phone lines as they would need to go out and install DSLAMS all over the place and would not have any space to fit a DSLAM in the cabinets they already have from what I have seen.






124 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 2


  Reply # 136832 10-Jun-2008 01:30
Send private message

Cable v xDSL (in NZ), not this again, there is no vs, its not even worth talking about.

Why on earth do you want 25mbps, I find 10mbps to fast. Its ridiculously fast. I can't think of anything I would need more speed for.



2206 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 623

Trusted

  Reply # 136846 10-Jun-2008 07:21
Send private message

I have been at a customer who is on the KAREN network, and being able to download a 4GB Linux ISO from the US in less than 30 mins.... That's what broadband is all about!





25201 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5040

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 136880 10-Jun-2008 09:03
Send private message

Crowbar: Cable v xDSL (in NZ), not this again, there is no vs, its not even worth talking about.

Why on earth do you want 25mbps, I find 10mbps to fast. Its ridiculously fast. I can't think of anything I would need more speed for.




This is a point that many people seem to completely overlook. What use is superfast broadband for the average user?

The speeds you can get are directly tied back to the server you are connected to and it's own internet connection. For general web surfing the difference between 10Mbps and 25Mbps isn't even noticeable. If you're downloading a large file then maybe it will be - but remember if that server you are connecting to is sitting on a 100Mbps LAN connection and and had any more than a handful of people connecting to it at the same time then you will never get 25Mbps anyway.

It's a bit like DOCSIS3 - if you look at places like Singapore who have deployed this they will give you 100Mbps to selected sites, simply because the internet is not capable of supporting 100Mbps connections for every user. It's fantastic if you're caching local content or need great local bandwidth for IPTV etc but in terms of internet surfing it's not a big deal.

198 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 9

Trusted

  Reply # 136953 10-Jun-2008 11:02
Send private message

lchiu7:
Mike

Can you verify or deny my comment about it would be hard for TCL to unbundle because their architecture is not the same as Telecom's - that is it's a cabinetised type structure, rather than local Exchanges where a competitor could put in their own DSLAMs?

I would imagine it would even be harder to tap into the cable network?


The TCL copper network is fully cabinetised and there is not a lot of room in the cabinets, which does present some challenges.

It would be difficult to tap into the cable network in order to allow 3rd parties to install their own head-end equipment, though not impossible. You would need to allocate downstream and upstream frequencies to the 3rd party; and then manage them carefully---someone switching their headend to the wrong frequency would be Bad (tm). Frequencies are also a scarce resource, so if TCL agreed to do this, the fair cost would be quite high.

OTOH, TCL have always offered wholesale service to other ISPs on the cable network

297 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

  Reply # 137522 12-Jun-2008 02:36
Send private message

Hmmm TelstraClear dont seem to be gearing up for LLU competition to cable at all... http://www.geekzone.co.nz/paradoxsm/5208

1 | 2 
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Avondale College students at top of Microsoft Office Specialist World Championship
Posted 21-Aug-2017 14:11


Garmin introduces inReach SE+ and inReach Explorer+
Posted 21-Aug-2017 14:05


Public Wi-Fi plus cloud file sharing
Posted 18-Aug-2017 11:20


D-Link NZ launches professional Wireless AC Wave 2 Access Point for businesses
Posted 17-Aug-2017 19:25


Garmin introduces the Rino 700 five-watt two-way handheld radio
Posted 17-Aug-2017 19:04


Garmin announces the Foretrex 601 and Foretrex 701 Ballistic Edition for outdoor and tactical use
Posted 17-Aug-2017 19:02


Brightstar announces new distribution partnership with Samsung Knox platform in Australia
Posted 17-Aug-2017 17:07


Free gig-enabled WiFi network extends across Dunedin
Posted 17-Aug-2017 17:04


Samsung expands with connect Gear S3 Frontier
Posted 17-Aug-2017 15:55


Fact-checking Southern Cross Next cable is fastest to USA
Posted 17-Aug-2017 13:57


Thurrott says Microsoft Surface is dead last for reliability
Posted 16-Aug-2017 15:19


LibreOffice 5.4 works better with Microsoft Office files
Posted 16-Aug-2017 13:32


Certus launches Cognition
Posted 14-Aug-2017 09:31


Spark adds Cambridge, Turangi to 4.5G network
Posted 10-Aug-2017 17:55


REANNZ network to receive ongoing Government funding through to 2024
Posted 10-Aug-2017 16:05



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.