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  Reply # 142047 1-Jul-2008 21:26
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And also a poor response IMHO in regards to peering. It costs nothing or very little to provide peering into the WIX, it would provide customers a huge improvement in internet access to local servers (trademe), reduce their international traffic. But no... "we need to earn a return for the use of our assets", and "This is still more cost effective than international bandwidth." Yes.. Peering is a more cost effect than using International traffic... It's just because TCL wants to be paid by the people on WIX for the TCL customers who access their services.... Ugh!

Edit:  I know of two large govt customers who use TCL as their full infrastructure provider in Wellington, both of them mandated that they have access to the WIX for wellington network peering.  Which was dutifully done.

So what's the moral of the story, if you are spending 1Mil+ with TCL and require peering then it's not a problem, but if you are an end-user customer trying to reduce international traffic, unless who are wanting to connect to pay TCL to peer into TCL's network, TCL would rather route you internationally so both parties pay for international traffic, and you as a customer suffer.

Me thinks it's time to find a new provider with that sort of attitude, and really, do I still need pay tv... not so sure about that.





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  Reply # 142050 1-Jul-2008 21:44
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I was hopeing he would answer the question about the saturn cable network a bit better, would of been nice to know if they were at all considering expanding it

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 147843 14-Jul-2008 18:03
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Guys I am obviously biased since I work for TelstraClear, but you have to understand that we cannot give away everything when it comes to what we are doing and when. Not only because we might not want our competitors to know, but because it may mean breaching Non-disclosure agreements, as well as putting current negotiations in a difficult position.

Without brown nosing, I am happy Allan answered the questions, and I would love to see how forthcoming any of the other CEO's would be with exact time frames etc. There are a few companies that do nothing but talk, we prefer to make sure we get something out there that you guys can enjoy instead of visions of things that may or may not happen.

Rest assured we don't withhold information needlessly and we obviously will make sure to let the market know when we have things that are ready to be announced.

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Reply # 147948 14-Jul-2008 23:35
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nzealander: There are a few companies that do nothing but talk, we prefer to make sure we get something out there that you guys can enjoy instead of visions of things that may or may not happen.


Ahahahahaaaahahahhaaaaahahah!!! Classic. When was the last time TelstraClear delivered on a promise? I should have been able to get 25mbit/s 7 months ago -- and then when that didn't happen -- 14 days ago (mid this year). TelstraClear are one of the worst companies for keeping to their schedule I've ever come across.

Also, a bit off topic, but isn't it strange that if not for TelstraClear and Telecom's agreement (no TelstraClear ADSL in cable areas), one would be able to get PDQ, at faster speeds, and for less, than cable? Even when (if?) the 25mbit plan becomes available in Wellington it'll be irrelevant due to the absurd cost.

Pathetic.

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  Reply # 150253 22-Jul-2008 13:22
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Screeb:
nzealander: There are a few companies that do nothing but talk, we prefer to make sure we get something out there that you guys can enjoy instead of visions of things that may or may not happen.


Ahahahahaaaahahahhaaaaahahah!!! Classic. When was the last time TelstraClear delivered on a promise? I should have been able to get 25mbit/s 7 months ago -- and then when that didn't happen -- 14 days ago (mid this year). TelstraClear are one of the worst companies for keeping to their schedule I've ever come across.

Also, a bit off topic, but isn't it strange that if not for TelstraClear and Telecom's agreement (no TelstraClear ADSL in cable areas), one would be able to get PDQ, at faster speeds, and for less, than cable? Even when (if?) the 25mbit plan becomes available in Wellington it'll be irrelevant due to the absurd cost.

Pathetic.


Either you have had very few providers in your life, don't read press releases (it appears you dont) or you have been unlucky. Sorry mate I have worked for and have mates in most of the Telco's in NZ, and there are a great number of telcos that are good at talking  hot air.

We face like everone else constraints around what can be implemented and when, that is part of the environment we work in.

I think the last comment you made is interesting obviously proves you know a lot about how our infrastructure, and IT systems and agreements in general work... Or not

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  Reply # 150517 22-Jul-2008 23:48
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nzealander:
Either you have had very few providers in your life, don't read press releases (it appears you dont) or you have been unlucky. Sorry mate I have worked for and have mates in most of the Telco's in NZ, and there are a great number of telcos that are good at talking  hot air.


I'm simply saying TelstraClear is no exception to BSing, and are always missing deadlines, which is in contradiction to what you said originally (the part I first quoted).


We face like everone else constraints around what can be implemented and when, that is part of the environment we work in.


Of course. Just don't over-promise then pull out this line every time something doesn't go to plan (which is all the time, apparently). Maybe TelstraClear should work on setting more realistic dates if it can't handle the heat.


I think the last comment you made is interesting obviously proves you know a lot about how our infrastructure, and IT systems and agreements in general work... Or not


Sweet, personal attacks! Always a good way to make the company you work for look like they care about their customers.

I do, in fact, know a bit about TelstraClear's infrastructure (the public part, at least), and "IT systems and agreements in general work". I'm sure you know more about it than me, but I have the advantage of not being biased, and being the customer, who is constantly being told about the amazing, best in NZ services being offered by his ISP (not unique to TelstraClear of course), how great they are, and how they "make sure we get something out there that you guys can enjoy instead of visions of things that may or may not happen", which is hilarious because that's the exact opposite of the truth. It's an undeniable fact that TelstraClear has had many long delays in rolling out new services. Yes, so do other companies, but don't act like TelstraClear are anything special. (Again, where's my 25mbit option that was promised to be available at the end of last year? Hmm...)

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  Reply # 150529 23-Jul-2008 07:11
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I'm simply saying TelstraClear is no exception to BSing, and are always missing deadlines, which is in contradiction to what you said originally (the part I first quoted).


I didn't mean we always deliver on deadlines, You are perfectly right. My point was I feel we manage to deliver to a higher degree then some of our other competitors, doesnt mean it doesnt happen, just that I feel we are in a good position.

As to it being a "personal attack", it wasnt meant to be taken as a personal attack at all, so I appologize if you took it that way. I was questioning if you had insight in to how those parts of the business work, and I was quering if your statement reflected knowledge about why those rules were in place or if it was just guess work, see a lot of examples of that, which I dont think should be taken as fact. I guess if you are passionate about your work, and love the company you work for, having someone call it "pathetic" feels like a personal attack too.

I don't think any Telco can claim to be problem free or to provide a solution that eclipses everyone else. But having worked in a few both here and abroad, at least I feel that we are in a market that is trying to better it self (as a whole) will be very interesting to see what LLU brings on all fronts.

Man 25mb/s??? I would be stoked if I got an even 15mb/s up here :P I am used to Europe with a good old dedicated 100mb/s pipe. Ahhh those were the days...


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  Reply # 155051 7-Aug-2008 20:10

Evidently with Sky charging it's customers $600 to get HD, they are not just going to on-sell their HD signals without a premium, it would not be a case of TCL send you a new box, and voila - HD cable. Sky would be massively undercutting themselves if they had that deal.

No doubt Sky want a similar premium price for HD cable feeds, and TCL are evaluating if there would be the maket take up on HD at a premium - and at how much.

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