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  Reply # 139190 19-Jun-2008 14:54
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It really was a comment rather than a plea or request.

But if you want it to be a request:

Need Paul asap please Paul Innocent

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  Reply # 139193 19-Jun-2008 15:09
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tonyhughes:
ahmad: Need Paul asap

Personally I am happy to wait, knowing that Paul seems to post more when us GZers are not breathing down his neck ;-P


Indeed, in anycase the plan doesn't even come online for another month, and as another user already commented that their standard t&cs for data also prohibite viop.




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  Reply # 139484 20-Jun-2008 21:13
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/4591136a28.html


Shalfoon said [...]  there was no plans to change the fixed rates plans [...] one fixed plan for about $40 a month gives 200 megabytes of data with 50c charged for every extra megabyte.


Woo hoo, seems that yet again, on account customers get to bend over.  The second the new casual rates come out, my account will be terminated, vodafone will definately lose on that deal. 

They should be taking that lowest plan up to 500 meg, that would bring it in line with the others and make it more attractive than casual rates for regular users.




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  Reply # 139493 20-Jun-2008 21:57
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I may be blind..but I don't see an answer to the Vodafona music question.

From what I've read, you pay for the song + the b/w usuage

That's crazy - especially when the you get the song for the original on the website via landline connection..

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  Reply # 139675 22-Jun-2008 09:20
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hmm this plan will make redundant the 3mb and 15mb data plans.

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  Reply # 139684 22-Jun-2008 10:55
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PottsyNZ: I may be blind..but I don't see an answer to the Vodafona music question.

From what I've read, you pay for the song + the b/w usuage

That's crazy - especially when the you get the song for the original on the website via landline connection..


Paul has already mentioned the usual Vodafone Live stuff such as Sky Mobile, 3G full music tracks, downloading games etc are unmetered and will NOT count towards your data usage.

The example of being able to download 5 music tracks seems to be used as an analogy for the average joe of how much data people can use.

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  Reply # 139693 22-Jun-2008 11:56
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mikal: Paul has already mentioned the usual Vodafone Live stuff such as Sky Mobile, 3G full music tracks, downloading games etc are unmetered and will NOT count towards your data usage.

The example of being able to download 5 music tracks seems to be used as an analogy for the average joe of how much data people can use.


Not correct Mikal, from here http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=40&TopicId=23049&page_no=2#138513

PaulBrislen: No more walled garden. Instead, everything is charged at this rate (the only exceptions being Vodafone Compass and Sky Mobile TV).


And from the table on the website http://www.vodafone.co.nz/mobile-data/mobile-web.jsp


In summary - games, 3g full music tracks etc WILL count towards your usage - the only stuff that won't is the Vlive homepage itself, Compass and Sky Mobile TV at this stage. So if you pull down a few games and 10 tracks on the new plan, you are going to be paying a fair few $$$ in overage @ $1/MB.

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  Reply # 139697 22-Jun-2008 12:13
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my mistake. mind you most users on here probably don't download directly off vlive and more move mp3 tracks from pc direct to phone?

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  Reply # 139700 22-Jun-2008 12:29
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It will be interesting to see what, if any, complaints their are regarding this policy. Vodafone are now reverting back to the way Live! was billed when it was first launched where they double dipped by charging data rates as well as aubscription/usage fees for services on the Live! platform. This resulted in quite a few complains to the commerce commission because a service advertised as 50c for example was not costing only 50c.

IMHO traffic such as music store downloads should all be zero rated.

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  Reply # 139701 22-Jun-2008 12:33
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I agree, anything you are billed for shouldn't have data charged on top - if for no other reason than it is confusing/misleading for the uneducated.

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  Reply # 139866 23-Jun-2008 09:47
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hasole: hmm this plan will make redundant the 3mb and 15mb data plans.

Not entirely... I'm (at the moment) a very small but every day data user.  I just use it to download my email headers every day.  I'm on the 3MB per month plan and that's about how much I use each month, so about 100KB per day.  By my calculations if you use data every day but only about 100-300KB each day, then you're better off on the 3MB plan rather than the new casual plan, even though on the 3MB plan you'll be paying for overage (but only at about $2/MB).
I was hoping that the new casual plan would be accompanied by new monthly plans, but alas that does not appear to be going to happen.
I'm a bit torn between the two, since I would like the added flexibility that the new casual plan would give me, being able to use a lot more data on occasional days (eg phone as a modem with my laptop when travelling), but I fear my monthly data bill will quickly go from $11/month to $30/month ($1/day) if I change to casual.

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  Reply # 139899 23-Jun-2008 11:35
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That's a damn good point, hadn't thought of that... I'm on the 3mb plan too and was gonna cancel it, but when you put it like that...




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  Reply # 139901 23-Jun-2008 11:43
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Just got a TXT from Vodafone:

From 28 July 08 there will be new charges on Vodafone live & a new casual internet data rate on yr mobile. Freecall 489 for pricing & details


Wow!! Only one TXT SPK word in there, that's unusual :-)

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  Reply # 139921 23-Jun-2008 12:46

Hi there, just to clarify a few things.

Casual data rates will be available on BOTH prepay AND on account.

Once the new billing regime kicks off in July you will pay for all data you use on the connection. The only exceptions are those services that chose to offer a flat fee - at the moment that's Sky Mobile TV which has the data price built in.

Until the new billing regime arrives there are some sites that are free to browse - go through the Vodafone live! portal and it will show you which ones you can browse for free.

VoIP is not supported. If customers' use of VoIP interfers with other customers' ability to use the network then we will take action but otherwise we don't care. The same rule applies for any use of the network.

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  Reply # 139924 23-Jun-2008 12:51
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I'm on that same 3 mb plan, but since I don't use it every day, I definitely be cancelling and getting the casual rate.

When I want to use it I want to use a bit of it, not 100k at a time.





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