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  Reply # 144781 8-Jul-2008 17:04
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JoeBloggs: I would personally agree but things are getting better. As I've pointed out before, with the addition of NZ Coms to the mobile market Vodafone has their work cut out for them. I just don't see this Iphone publicity as anything other than BAD for them. Seriously, they would have been far better off just not signing the contract or entering into negotiations. I truly believe they did this to prevent Telecom or NZ Coms getting their hands on this device.

I think they have to sell it because Vodafone internationally has signed the agreement with Apple so all Vodafone subsidiaries, including NZ, are selling iPhone. When the 1st gen iPhone was released, I personally didn't think that Vodafone would ever bring it here because they cannot customise the iPhone i.e. the home page cannot be changed to Vodafone Live, music store can't be replaced by Vodafone's, etc.

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  Reply # 144789 8-Jul-2008 17:08
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SightUnseen:
jpollock: Has anyone seen any of the other Vodafone subsidiary iPhone prices?

Yes.

Check out the prices for the already released from the list of 21 here:  http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/07/07/iphone-3g-prices-and-plans-for-21-countries


Only has prices for VF Portugal, and no handset price listed.

What happened to the others?

the Czech Republic, Egypt, Greece, Italy, India, South Africa and Turkey





 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 144792 8-Jul-2008 17:16
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JoeBloggs: Wow, and only 18 month contract. We are talking about some of the lowest rates in the world though with regards to the UK.

Yes - but Joe, that is because OFCOM and the EU force the companies to behave fairly. Here in Kiwiland, where protectionism is a government-sponsored activity, the regulator -if there even is one - is like a toothless old woman!







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  Reply # 144800 8-Jul-2008 17:25
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jpollock:
SightUnseen:
jpollock: Has anyone seen any of the other Vodafone subsidiary iPhone prices?

Yes.

Check out the prices for the already released from the list of 21 here:  http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/07/07/iphone-3g-prices-and-plans-for-21-countries


Only has prices for VF Portugal, and no handset price listed.

What happened to the others?

the Czech Republic, Egypt, Greece, Italy, India, South Africa and Turkey


I've seen NZ, Italy, and Portugal so far:  someone's posted them here:  http://mothership.co.nz/forum/index.php/topic,95.0/

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  Reply # 144803 8-Jul-2008 17:31
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I wonder if in the future university marketing depts will use this as a case study of monumental marketing c6ck ups!!!

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  Reply # 144804 8-Jul-2008 17:31
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Geektastic: Yes - but Joe, that is because OFCOM and the EU force the companies to behave fairly. Here in Kiwiland, where protectionism is a government-sponsored activity, the regulator -if there even is one - is like a toothless old woman!


Well then, God bless New Zealand!

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  Reply # 144808 8-Jul-2008 17:34
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If you want to let Apple know how you are feeling, here is the e-mail addy for the big guy (apparently people emailing him there have gotten very smart responses)

Stolen from www.consumerist.com

sjobs@apple.com

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  Reply # 144812 8-Jul-2008 17:39
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is this of interest??

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/07/07/iphone.new.zealand/

reckons the data prices may be coming down?

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  Reply # 144816 8-Jul-2008 17:45
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guttix: is this of interest??

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/07/07/iphone.new.zealand/

reckons the data prices may be coming down?


That was based on the "radical data plans" vodafone were piping on about.

Now we know it was bull****

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  Reply # 144830 8-Jul-2008 18:01
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PostmanPatsCat:That was based on the "radical data plans" vodafone were piping on about.

Now we know it was bull****
That's the thing about today's announcement.

Yes, "it's just a phone", but Vodafone have been leading us all up the garden path with their dripfeeding of information which, in hindsight, most people would regard as bordering on deceptive.

People don't like being duped.

Vodafone if you hadn't promised a low price point AND a reasonable per month commitment AND a reasonable data allowance, I wouldn't be as upset.

Yes I can choose not to buy, but I feel that you've come very close to lying about affordability to draw interest.

Cheap, and this will backfire in the long run. I've not considered Telecom as an option for me since I ditched them over 10 years ago.

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  Reply # 144838 8-Jul-2008 18:18
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Terrible.

Although I much prefer more heavily featured phones for myself (N95/82 etc), at a compelling price point with a good plan I would have had no hesitation recommending the iPhone 3G to many people. Since this offers neither a good price, or a good plan, I'll continue to recommend other handsets.




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  Reply # 144839 8-Jul-2008 18:18
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Cheap, and this will backfire in the long run. I've not considered Telecom as an option for me since I ditched them over 10 years ago.


I'm sorely tempted to make the switch for no other reason than to express my disgust at the very things you've described here.

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  Reply # 144846 8-Jul-2008 18:29
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Lead story on campbell live tonight, so it will be good to see what responce he gets from the vodadrones...




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  Reply # 144847 8-Jul-2008 18:31
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Not sure if this link has been posted yet, but looks like NZ is going to be famous for more than just Lord Of The Rings:

via TechCrunch - Why the AT&T iPhone Deal is Bad, But Not That Bad

Update - and another one from CrunchGear: http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/07/think-att-is-trying-to-screw-you-with-their-unlimited-iphone-3g-plan/

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  Reply # 144863 8-Jul-2008 18:56
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Here go the international prices in USD for comparison.  Source is that arstechnica link posted before, with the NZ prices added in by me.  Difficult to compare because of the different minutes, SMS and data included:



 
                TCO 24 Months
Country Carrier 8GB 16GB Plan Minutes SMS Data Contract 8GB 16GB
Australia Telstra no prices yet    
Australia Vodafone no prices yet    
Austria T-Mobile no prices yet    
Canada Rogers $199 $299 $60 150 75 400MB 36 months $1,639 $1,739
Denmark Telia $298 $426 $128 300 unlimited 300MB 6 months $3,370 $3,498
Finland Sonera $250 $385 $50 100 100 100MB 24 months $1,450 $1,585
Germany T-Mobile $94 $236 $77 100 40 Unlimited 24 months $1,942 $2,084
Hong Kong Three $377 $479 $24 500 unlimited 500MB 24 months $953 $1,055
Ireland O2 $265 $360 $71 175 100 1GB 18 months $1,969 $2,064
Italy Vodafone $313 $423 $93 400 400 600MB 24 months $2,545 $2,655
Italy TIM no prices yet    
Mexico Telcel no prices yet    
Netherlands T-Mobile $126 $252 $47 150 150 Unlimited 24 months $1,254 $1,380
New Zealand Vodafone $412 $524 $60 120 600 250MB 24 Months $1,852 $1,964
Norway NetCom $275 $452 $79 100 100 100MB 12 months? $2,171 $2,348
Portugal Optimus no prices yet    
Portugal Vodafone ??? ??? $47 100 100 250MB 24 months    
Spain Movistar no prices yet    
Sweden Telia $284 $451 $50 100 100 100MB 24 months $1,484 $1,651
Switzerland Orange no prices yet    
Switzerland Swisscom $249 $349 $25 - - 100MB 24 months $849 $949
United Kingdom O2 $196 $315 $59 75 125 Unlimited 18 months $1,612 $1,731
United States AT&T $199 $299 $70 450 - Unlimited 24 months $1,879 $1,979

                     

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