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  # 145038 8-Jul-2008 21:13
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krysiszone: What I can't understand is how the head honcho of Marketing at Vodafone said he new nothing about other carriers dataplans.

Marketing manager susually do research to see what the competition is doing .

Apart from coming across as a complete plonker he has completely embarrassed himself.

He must think that NZ are so backward that we cannot look up the internet to see what other carriers are charging.

In my opinion a complete marketing disaster.

They could have used this to really give us decent realistic plans with realistic datacaps.

I've been keeping an eye on this thread all day and have kept out of it until now.  But that interview tonight riled me up slightly...

If Vodafone's Marketing Manager can go on national TV and lie, then that puts the credibility of his company severly at jeopardy.

The point I am trying to make is that it is HIS JOB to know where the world wide market is heading.  To research this and be competently familiar with it (at a minimum).  It was clear that he was totally over his head and all he could really say is that he did not have knowledge of overseas prices.  Anything else said would have been even more damaging to VF, and make him look like a complete arse.

He'll get a nice big bonus from his bosses though.  They've got to spend the obscene amounts of money they are making on something...


Don't stress people, Mark Rushworth was on the verge of dropping big hints to explain the pricing before he was interrupted by JC. At midnight NZ will be first place in the world that the iphone will be available in. This is global launch pricing for people who are desperate to be able to tell their mates that they got their hands on one of the first 3g iphones in the world - yes we're talking Russian oligarchs and software tycoons who crave some techno novelty in between space shuttle rides and Formula 1 parties on 300 metre long "yachts".

I think it's a matter of weeks before the pricing drops dramatically - maybe even a matter of days.




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  # 145039 8-Jul-2008 21:18
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martin308:
ahmad:
alsta:
 

Update:  They've seen it.  


And????

Update: Unlimited data, 600 min, 600 txt to now cost $99/month with $199 iPhone on 2 year plan.


Wheres this from? wishful thinking?

Yeah, I'll have to bite, what you on about willis?

 
 
 
 


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  # 145042 8-Jul-2008 21:22
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kinetic:
martin308:
ahmad:
alsta:
 

Update:  They've seen it.  


And????

Update: Unlimited data, 600 min, 600 txt to now cost $99/month with $199 iPhone on 2 year plan.


Wheres this from? wishful thinking?

Yeah, I'll have to bite, what you on about willis?



Clearly hes just got wishful thinking.
So do I.
Basically though, hes wanting apple (or v*******) to listen.

Sorry I had to * it out. Vodafone is now considered a dirty word.. *mutters* Stupid... Something-o-rather good for nothings.

Maybe GZ should censor it. :)





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  # 145043 8-Jul-2008 21:24

Has anyone else laid a complaint with Vodafone yet??

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  # 145044 8-Jul-2008 21:26
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You can't make a formal complaint via the TDRS regarding pricing.

As far as I am aware.

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  # 145045 8-Jul-2008 21:26
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friendlymonkey: Has anyone else laid a complaint with Vodafone yet??


Complain about what?




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  # 145046 8-Jul-2008 21:27
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friendlymonkey: Has anyone else laid a complaint with Vodafone yet??

From the Campbell interview a "complaint" will clearly achieve nothing.

The only thing that will make Vodafone back down on this one is for a boycott of the iPhone in NZ.

I'm not talking a formal boycott of the product - just refuse to buy the product at the current pricing. I guess that's what they call "market forces".

Sadly, I have no doubt this WILL sell at these prices.

 
 
 
 


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  # 145049 8-Jul-2008 21:35
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ahmad:
friendlymonkey: Has anyone else laid a complaint with Vodafone yet??

From the Campbell interview a "complaint" will clearly achieve nothing.

The only thing that will make Vodafone back down on this one is for a boycott of the iPhone in NZ.

I'm not talking a formal boycott of the product - just refuse to buy the product at the current pricing. I guess that's what they call "market forces".

Sadly, I have no doubt this WILL sell at these prices.



Much to my disgust, I have to agree.

Although, having a turnout that may be 1/5 or 2/5's of what they were expecting is a very hurtful move.
I mean, that's a lot of money, really. They lose out big time if we don't buy.

Once again, Vodafone work for us, not the other way around. I think they forget where their money comes from?





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  # 145052 8-Jul-2008 21:42
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Is it just me or is the price of everything going up? Does Vodafone actually think the average user can actually afford this?

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  # 145054 8-Jul-2008 21:44
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Unfortanitly i too think they will sell all there 'limited numbers', and positive press as people line up thursday night.

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  # 145057 8-Jul-2008 21:45
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Guess they have to weigh up the profit from these first sales against the badwill created against vodafone, and the fact that more people have being told that its so much more expensive then the rest of the world via campbell live.

I bet the talk at peoples work tomorrow wont be about the cool phone coming out on friday, but about the idiot on campbell live trying to justify the overpricing. Will vodafone shoot the other foot before launch at all?  




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  # 145058 8-Jul-2008 21:45
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For a company that spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising and improving their brand, they really did shyte on it bad..  dumb move

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  # 145066 8-Jul-2008 21:49
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itxtme: For a company that spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising and improving their brand, they really did shyte on it bad..  dumb move


You're not wrong.. They really royally screwed this one up. I'd like to see how they untangle the web they got caught in..





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  # 145070 8-Jul-2008 21:53
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Lets get this straightt guys,
Mark Rushworth, was called to do a segment on cambell live at 4:30pm to come in the studio  at 7:10 he was not prepared what so ever in that short amounth of time.
 
The prices are resonsable for NZ, as we only have one competitor it was not a choice to lower the plan price due to constrants that the head quaters in UK gave us and reviewed the pricing plan that NZ vodafone came up with.

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  # 145072 8-Jul-2008 21:56
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At one point in the Cambell interview, Mark Rushworth says that their cheapest plan is $50, and the iPhone costs $800and-something on that plan.

Erm, what is he talking about?

As for not looking at worldwide prices, what a load of bollocks...




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