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sbiddle: If I walked into a VF store today and purchased a N95 on a 24 month contract on the equivilent 24 month 250 contract of 600 anytime minutes, 1GB data and 600 SMS's it would cost me $287.85 per month. I would also receive $400 discount off the $1399 pricepoint of the N95 which would bring it down to $999. Entering into the same contract with the iPhone I could pay $199.
ZOMG111 Vodafone are ripping off Symbian users b1gt1me. Lets organise a march down Queen St!
BigFella:sbiddle: If I walked into a VF store today and purchased a N95 on a 24 month contract on the equivilent 24 month 250 contract of 600 anytime minutes, 1GB data and 600 SMS's it would cost me $287.85 per month. I would also receive $400 discount off the $1399 pricepoint of the N95 which would bring it down to $999. Entering into the same contract with the iPhone I could pay $199.
ZOMG111 Vodafone are ripping off Symbian users b1gt1me. Lets organise a march down Queen St!
Now don't go bringing common sense and reality into the discussion, the ranters won't know what you're on about....
MattD: Some terms from AU site (before removed)iPhone does not support Vodafone live! or downloadable content from third party premium SMS content providers
SightUnseen:We're currently working through the numbers to arrive at a build cost and will apply Apple's GP margin to get a reasonable estimate. We'll post these on our blog when done.
MattD:SightUnseen:We're currently working through the numbers to arrive at a build cost and will apply Apple's GP margin to get a reasonable estimate. We'll post these on our blog when done.Numbers have been estimated a number of times (USD173)My guess is cost to VFNZ would be $350-400 NZD
Osty: SightUnseen that is exactly right! Steve Jobs has slashed the price of the iPhone to make it more affordable and now vodafone NZ has completly killed that idea altogether!
SightUnseen: It's difficult to pin down until the devices start shipping. Having said that, they were within $1 with their estimates for the original iPhone.
MattD:SightUnseen: It's difficult to pin down until the devices start shipping. Having said that, they were within $1 with their estimates for the original iPhone.Fantastic. Was that after you received the iPhone?
Osty: SightUnseen that is exactly right! Steve Jobs has slashed the price of the iPhone to make it more affordable and now vodafone NZ has completly killed that idea altogether!
SightUnseen: Wrong.
Take the new billing system, for example. Vodafone Asia Pacific had a choice down to three, chose one, and were directed by Newbury to take another of HO's choosing. In many respects Vodafone are seen as a test bed for the Vodafone Group, so while Vodafone is left to run fairly free, HO definitely do have a say reasonably frequently, and often on the big stuff.
They are allowed input and need to be taken seriously - such as in the shift to Siebel as an online CSR portal instead of the antiquated in-house solution VF had been using for so long. HQ didn't have the final say, NZ management did, purely as a cost-saving and reliability issue. Plus Siebel is now used by Australia and the UK so training and implementation time is cut in half for those two countries.
TinyTim: Vodafone NZ's shareholder is Vodafone Group. If VFNZ takes its orders from its shareholders, then it takes its orders from Vodafone Group.Vodafone Group has global contracts with its vendors, to allow it to get the best bulk prices. It wouldn't be unreasonable for Vodafone Group to require its subsidiaries to buy through those contracts to keep prices down.
sbiddle: A question for Vodafone - since the plans represent better value than existing You Choose plans can we sign up on one of these if we don't have an iPhone?
No. I saw a memo stating that IMEI number scans would be conducted monthly and clawbacks of all hardware and commission would occur for any store that sold this plan on anything other than an Iphone 3G.
MattD: Numbers have been estimated a number of times (USD173)
My guess is cost to VFNZ would be $350-400 NZD
A little higher, plus Apple still has a revenue stipulation which I'm unclear about.
SightUnseen:MattD:SightUnseen: It's difficult to pin down until the devices start shipping. Having said that, they were within $1 with their estimates for the original iPhone.Fantastic. Was that after you received the iPhone?Can you clarify?
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