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  # 2095257 23-Sep-2018 21:31
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Its the way the whole world except for the USA is going for mobiles. Canada is the other holdout with their bizzaro pricing plans that make the USA seem sane in comparison.

 

The subsidy is a holdover from the days of phones costing 1000s for a very basic one. The last decent free phone in NZ was the samsung S2 or S3 era where it was basically free on a quite cheap plan. Since then plans have got way better value and people have much easier access to credit thru the likes of Q card or gem visa to buy any phone anywhere on credit and the costs are not being hidden in a plan that then means they cant downgrade or move networks if needs change.





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  # 2095302 24-Sep-2018 08:38
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Slightly OP but I note Kogan mobile in Aussie offer 3, 6, 12 monthly payment options on prepay for a bigger discount. Kogan mobile is a MVNO in Aussie using the vodafone AU mobile network and is expected to launch in NZ as a MVNO using the Vodafone NZ mobile network.

 

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The mobile / ISP business is tough, and has been a race to the bottom for sometime now. 

 

With apple products, there is a tiny profit margin for retailers.

 

So mobile providers accepted a loss on subsidised handsets but used the 24 month contract to make some profit. 

 

I guess that mobile plan prices have decreased to the point that mobile providers cannot make a profit from subsidised phone/24 month plan deals. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 2095309 24-Sep-2018 09:15
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TMobile US and other wireless US carriers stopped subsidizing handsets back in 2012.

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/android/t-mobile-eliminating-subsidies-good-thing-iphone/ 


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surfisup1000:

 

I guess that mobile plan prices have decreased to the point that mobile providers cannot make a profit from subsidised phone/24 month plan deals. 

 

 

I guess that Apple handset prices have increased to the point that mobile providers cannot make a profit from subsidised phone/24 month plan deals. 


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  # 2095853 24-Sep-2018 23:22
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dafman:

surfisup1000:


I guess that mobile plan prices have decreased to the point that mobile providers cannot make a profit from subsidised phone/24 month plan deals. 



I guess that Apple handset prices have increased to the point that mobile providers cannot make a profit from subsidised phone/24 month plan deals. 



Not really true because there are no Handset discounts for Android phones either. Mind you just like the Note 9 you only had to wait 2 weeks after launch for Vodafone to discount them anyway hahaha

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Also the pay for your mobile over 24 months interest free has pretty much superceded the device subsidy option.




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  # 2095967 25-Sep-2018 09:12
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coffeebaron: Also the pay for your mobile over 24 months interest free has pretty much superceded the device subsidy option.


But Telco’s then run the risk of not making the sale without a contract. Plenty of places like HN and NL and even Apple offering decent interest free periods as well.

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