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  # 149816 21-Jul-2008 11:33
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I spoke to someone from ACE insurance a few days ago, that's Vodafone's phone insurance company. They're already offering the HTC TyTN II as replacements for certain models of phones. This means Vodafone already has stock. I'd expect the TyTN II to be priced similarly to that of the i-Mate series so expect it to cost around $1200+



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  # 149908 21-Jul-2008 15:32
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JoeBloggs: I spoke to someone from ACE insurance a few days ago, that's Vodafone's phone insurance company. They're already offering the HTC TyTN II as replacements for certain models of phones. This means Vodafone already has stock. I'd expect the TyTN II to be priced similarly to that of the i-Mate series so expect it to cost around $1200+

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  # 149919 21-Jul-2008 15:57
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Tytn II is available now... Its $1249 RRP



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  # 149922 21-Jul-2008 16:05
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The TyTn sounds a bit suspect. This is from Wikipedia:

Soon after its release to market, reviewers and end users reported the TyTN II's graphical performance was below par. Both 2D and 3D graphics were affected, with notable symptoms being poor video playback and severely low frame-rates when running 3D applications and games.[1][2] The hardware platform (Qualcomm 7200 chipset) suggested that the device was capable of high graphical performance,[3] however the device is constantly outperformed by HTC products released two to three years earlier. As of January 16, 2008, HTC had neither acknowledged the issue publicly nor released a fix.

However, since then there has been unofficial comments referencing to a possible update that developers are working on for a release in February 2008 that would resolve the problem. [4]

The community of enthusiast developers have investigated what might be causing the poor performance, and came to the conclusion that DirectDraw andDirect3D applications were running in software rendering mode only. No hardware acceleration was taking place, and the drivers required to take advantage of the ATI Imageon hardware appeared to be missing.[5]

Many users within the community were dissatisfied by the apparent omission of a video driver that would allow hardware acceleration of graphics, particularly since the device itself included rendering hardware which was not being used. In an attempt to help drive interest and expertise from developers, the community also began raising a bounty which could be offered to any developer (or team of developers) who could solve the problem by enabling hardware acceleration with a homebrew driver.[6] A Class Action Lawsuit page has been established to raise awareness of the problem[7]. Though it is now possible to download custom made OS's and ROM's which optimise the system and make 3D applications run smoother on the phone, true hardware acceleration making full use of the Imageon hardware remains impossible as of yet.






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  # 149973 21-Jul-2008 19:05
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Definitely for me the HTC Diamond.....  It's like an iPhone on Windows Mobile....  :)   You get all the cool, flashy features of the iPhone, but you get to customise it a lot more too....

Only thing bad is the price....  Almost as "bad" as the iPhone...  Ouch!



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  # 150065 21-Jul-2008 23:37
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jesseycy: Definitely for me the HTC Diamond.....  It's like an iPhone on Windows Mobile....  :)   You get all the cool, flashy features of the iPhone, but you get to customise it a lot more too....

Only thing bad is the price....  Almost as "bad" as the iPhone...  Ouch!

The bad thing is that you mentioned the "W" word!!





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  # 150072 22-Jul-2008 01:07
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Geektastic:
jesseycy: Definitely for me the HTC Diamond..... It's like an iPhone on Windows Mobile.... :) You get all the cool, flashy features of the iPhone, but you get to customise it a lot more too....

Only thing bad is the price.... Almost as "bad" as the iPhone... Ouch!

The bad thing is that you mentioned the "W" word!!


What's wrong with Windows Mobile? Are you one of those people that hate Windows and love linux? I can point out several retarted things about Linux if it's about being Linux fanboy.....




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  # 150099 22-Jul-2008 08:41
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billgates:
Geektastic:
jesseycy: Definitely for me the HTC Diamond..... It's like an iPhone on Windows Mobile.... :) You get all the cool, flashy features of the iPhone, but you get to customise it a lot more too....

Only thing bad is the price.... Almost as "bad" as the iPhone... Ouch!

The bad thing is that you mentioned the "W" word!!


What's wrong with Windows Mobile? Are you one of those people that hate Windows and love linux? I can point out several retarted things about Linux if it's about being Linux fanboy.....

I do personally hate Windows, yes. Linux is certainly not perfect - my Mac had grey screened more times since Leopard than the 3 years prior. I just happen to live in a mac world and worry about compatibility.





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# 150113 22-Jul-2008 09:31
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This is not about OS comparison. It is about handset devices. If you want to "hate" an OS open another thread.

FWIW I am using a HTC Diamond now for testing (since I am actually on Telecom, not on Vodafone) and it's a good device. Responsive, beautiful VGA scree, great WiFi - during the Geekzone Pizza evening in Hawkes Bay I managed to connect to a WiFi access point the guys put up on the other side of the motel court, inside their room.

The only thing is that it's not an iPhone yet. The pretty interface is pretty much th Today screen only - everything else is still like the old Windows Mobile interface. Hopefully this will change in the future - but may be something for anther handset.

Seriously if you want the iPhone eye candy, get an iPhone. If you want some functionality that you must live with such as Office document support, get a Windows Mobile.






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  # 150120 22-Jul-2008 10:01
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freitasm: This is not about OS comparison. It is about handset devices. If you want to "hate" an OS open another thread.

FWIW I am using a HTC Diamond now for testing (since I am actually on Telecom, not on Vodafone) and it's a good device. Responsive, beautiful VGA scree, great WiFi - during the Geekzone Pizza evening in Hawkes Bay I managed to connect to a WiFi access point the guys put up on the other side of the motel court, inside their room.

The only thing is that it's not an iPhone yet. The pretty interface is pretty much th Today screen only - everything else is still like the old Windows Mobile interface. Hopefully this will change in the future - but may be something for anther handset.

Seriously if you want the iPhone eye candy, get an iPhone. If you want some functionality that you must live with such as Office document support, get a Windows Mobile.

It is not really an eye candy issue, it is a compatibility issue. My calendars, email and everything else are on Mac. Although I am no fan of Windows, I would consider any device provided it has proper functionality when dealing with cross-platform sync.

Although the N95 (for instance) is supported by iSync, I assume that only works when you can connect it directly to your Mac, not when you are in a meeting in the middle of town - however, I am a photographer rather than an ITC specialist, so I may be wrong there!

I believe that the iPhone is the only way of achieving 100% Mac compatibility with Mobile me. I am hoping someone will tell me otherwise so that I can have more choice!





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  # 150131 22-Jul-2008 10:11
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freitasm: There are at least three programs that will synchronise your Mac information to Windows Mobile. Start with The Missing Sync for example.


I second that. Missing Sync is a nice program.




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  # 150145 22-Jul-2008 10:23
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Yes - but will it work in real time or only when connected to the Mac?

Also, if you are a heavy buyer of music from iTunes and only "unprotected" music can be synced by the program, would that mean that your device ended up with only 40% of your playlist if the other 60% were from iTunes?





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  # 150146 22-Jul-2008 10:25
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Geektastic: Yes - but will it work in real time or only when connected to the Mac?


Whats "real time" ? Only now iPhone has got Exchange Server Sync and MobileMe sync. I think what you are asking is some program like MobileMe Sync for Windows Mobile which would sync your MobileMe account? If so, well, I am also waiting for something like that.




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  # 150156 22-Jul-2008 10:42
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chakkaradeep:
Geektastic: Yes - but will it work in real time or only when connected to the Mac?


Whats "real time" ? Only now iPhone has got Exchange Server Sync and MobileMe sync. I think what you are asking is some program like MobileMe Sync for Windows Mobile which would sync your MobileMe account? If so, well, I am also waiting for something like that.

Yep - that is it! What I want to do is to buy a (say) N95 and have it sync calendars, mail and contacts in real time from anywhere, rather than only when I can plug it into my Mac.

Otherwise I may as well buy a MacBook Air and a vodem and just carry my existing wee Nokia!





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