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  # 2238585 15-May-2019 19:07
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Interesting that people here think that $5 roaming is a good deal. In the past when I've gone to the UK I've just bought a local Vodafone pay-as-you-go monthly plan and paid £20 (about NZ$39 at today's rates) for 10GB and unlimited UK calls and texts. If I instead used roaming for the 1 month I was away then it would cost me $150. The only advantage to using roaming would be that I could receive calls to my usual number, but that's not of much use to me as I rarely receive calls and the few people that are likely to call me would know that I was away anyway.

 

Or am I missing something?

 

 

 

 

As others have pointed out, VF global roaming is not the best option for 1 month on holiday in the UK (or likely, any other single country).  

 

But you are missing something else in your calculation for people on Prepay.  There are two VF Prepay global roaming options - $5 /day as you mention, and a $19/seven days option.  That works out at $76 for your 30 day trip, which is half your $150 estimate.  Not difficult to make four 7 day packs work for 30 days since the 7 day option covers the first part part day (whether it is 23 hours or one hour), plus the following seven full days. 

 

It is ideal for the type of business travel I do; eg. up to five countries in 2 weeks (or even 4 in ~one week at times).  Just need to make sure to renew the package as soon as the first one runs out (or rather turn roaming off just before the pack runs out, wait until the new day has rolled over in NZ, buy a new 7 day pack and turn roaming back on.  Not hard to do once a week).  Otherwise pretty much set & forget.  We also find it good for holiday use, even for 2 weeks in one country. Beats fluffing around using local sim cards even if they do work out a bit cheaper (which will not necessarily be the case).  But the big plus is multi-country.  The one pack works seamlessly across borders; eg. Australia - Singapore - UK - Bermuda all on a single 7 day pack 

 

Yes, there are many countries not covered but it does cover the large majority I have travelled to or through (main exception for me being UAE, and that just in transit for a few hours).

 

The other exception may be if you really do need the full 10 GB/month or have high call volumes.  But the 7 day pack gives 1 GB data, plus 100 mins & 100 texts for the week; ie 4 GB for the month).  That will be a limitation for some but with hotel or office wifi available, works well for me.  


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  # 2238586 15-May-2019 19:11
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@antoniosk:

You aren't allowed to abandon a network and leave it in place under the terms of initial installation on the poles. At the very least it will deteriorate and rot, falling down and potentially hurting people. Can you imagine the mess if networks were left in place? First Media, The bus wiring, Citynet etc



What? You mean like the mess that is chorus copper deteriorating and falling to bits... Lol.




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  # 2238588 15-May-2019 19:18
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You aren't allowed to abandon a network and leave it in place under the terms of initial installation on the poles. At the very least it will deteriorate and rot, falling down and potentially hurting people. Can you imagine the mess if networks were left in place? First Media, The bus wiring, Citynet etc



What? You mean like the mess that is chorus copper deteriorating and falling to bits... Lol.


Erm.... rather a copper pair failing on me than some of those cable mounted amplifiers....!




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  # 2238590 15-May-2019 19:24
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Would off been nice of Vodafone to put this sale in the offers and wanted section!





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DS248:

 

But you are missing something else in your calculation for people on Prepay.  There are two VF Prepay global roaming options - $5 /day as you mention, and a $19/seven days option.  That works out at $76 for your 30 day trip, which is half your $150 estimate.  Not difficult to make four 7 day packs work for 30 days since the 7 day option covers the first part part day (whether it is 23 hours or one hour), plus the following seven full days. 

 

 

Thanks for pointing out the $19/7 day option, I didn't know about that one, it does indeed make roaming more attractive.

 

As others have pointed out, I was looking at this from a longish stay (eg a month) in just one country and being paid for by me. As others here have pointed out, if you're on a short stay or travelling to multiple countries or your business is paying then roaming would definitely be the more convenient option.

 

Thanks for your thoughts everyone!


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  # 2238787 16-May-2019 09:14
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I'd prefer they keep the name, though I am unsure if that would only be possible with agreement from the VF Group. 

 

I think changing the name without substantial changes means the new name would be tarnished pretty quickly. Lipstick on a pig if you will. I firmly believe that what is wrong at VF is reasonably straight forward to fix. Not easy, not instant, but straight forward. They need buy-in from the new owners and a strong leader, some good key members of management and a buy in from the remaining staff to undertake to do better.  The issue is all the issues left over and outstanding as of now.  Not easy.

 

 


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  # 2238797 16-May-2019 09:30
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I'd prefer they keep the name, though I am unsure if that would only be possible with agreement from the VF Group. 

 

 

At the announcement press conference, they said that the sale agreement includes the right to continue to use the Vodafone name and to preserve the international networking arrangements currently in place.

 

IMHO, the value of the company without those provisions would have been very much smaller


 
 
 
 


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networkn:

 

I'd prefer they keep the name, though I am unsure if that would only be possible with agreement from the VF Group. 

 

 

At the announcement press conference, they said that the sale agreement includes the right to continue to use the Vodafone name and to preserve the international networking arrangements currently in place.

 

IMHO, the value of the company without those provisions would have been very much smaller

 

 

Yeah I was aware there was agreement, but those agreements are subject to change. If VF Group decided they didn't want the association, they would be forced to rebrand.


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From the Infratil annual report those 3G and 4G speeds are amazing

 


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  # 2254245 8-Jun-2019 12:04
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A ("Premium!") Herald article on the restructure/sale:

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12238004

 

 


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  # 2254892 9-Jun-2019 16:32
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quickymart:

 

A ("Premium!") Herald article on the restructure/sale:

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12238004

 

 

 

 

Good to see they mention the outsourcing to Tech Mahindra. I'm not sure if I agree that it will improve service though. My brother ended up with them. They went through 3 contracts before they landed on one he was willing to sign. The first one had major issues and didn't align with NZ Employment law. The second one mostly aligned but still had him earning under minimum wage, the final one put him just over minimum wage but was still a lot worse than the Vodafone one he was on. Its fixed for 12 months and he anticipates it won't be renewed (not that he plans to stay). What he's gone through hasn't endeared anyone in the family to VF, my folks have already moved away from them and if I had the choice I would too.

 

 

 

 


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From that article:

 

"Vodafone TV - a box that sits beside our TV and feeds it Sky TV channels delivered over the internet rather than via a satellite dish."

 

Is that actually true? I'd have thought that it came over its own "channel" and wouldn't touch the Internet.


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  # 2254904 9-Jun-2019 17:19
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Behodar:

From that article:


"Vodafone TV - a box that sits beside our TV and feeds it Sky TV channels delivered over the internet rather than via a satellite dish."


Is that actually true? I'd have thought that it came over its own "channel" and wouldn't touch the Internet.



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  # 2254905 9-Jun-2019 17:23
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Behodar:

From that article:


"Vodafone TV - a box that sits beside our TV and feeds it Sky TV channels delivered over the internet rather than via a satellite dish."


Is that actually true? I'd have thought that it came over its own "channel" and wouldn't touch the Internet.



Multi cast is how it's delivered does not touch the internet

Nope. They moved to fully over the top. Standard unicast.




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