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  # 2287399 1-Aug-2019 21:56
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sbiddle:

 

aspett:

 

But neither truly discredit the idea that satellites could at some point be affected; speaking in 'could' 'likely' 'may' terms.

 

 

There are already huge numbers of devices using 24GHz frequencies globally.

 

Here in New Zealand Vodafone already use 24GHz extensively, and have done so for many years. There would also be literally hundreds (if not thousands) of radio links in New Zealand using 24GHz ISM frequencies. Maybe somebody should ask NIWA what impact the existing use of these frequencies has on their ability to detect water vapour?

 

You're also talking about a *very* specific frequency, 23.8GHz. Issues could simply be avoided by not allowing this small section of the mmWave band to be used. Situation avoided. Simple.

 

 

I get it, and I'm not saying you're wrong. Just asking for links to resources to break down the science & data further so I can understand it better. My current understanding is that if devices emit at their intended frequencies without leaking too far into adjacent channels, then all should be well. I'd like to think that if NASA, NOAA, US Navy and NIWA think there *could* be an issue, then maybe there would be resources that either corroborate or invalidate those claims given they are meant to be the experts - no offense. 


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  # 2287922 3-Aug-2019 04:18
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old3eyes: Judging by the item on Onew News 5G will be a global changer from self drive cars, controlling your smart home and holographic phone calls. I suspect people are going to be a bit underwhelmed. Let the hype begin.

 

The top usage would be really fast access to cat videos in youtube.. oh and porn

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2287923 3-Aug-2019 06:59
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darn just bought a new flagship in May and will need another phone in a few months pffft





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  # 2287924 3-Aug-2019 07:01
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nek minit - new iphone launches without 5G ?





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  # 2287925 3-Aug-2019 07:05
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I think I'll stay with the phone I've got for now - can't see any real benefit for me moving to 5G at the moment.


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  # 2288992 3-Aug-2019 11:38
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nek minit - new iphone launches without 5G ?



Probably.
As I understand, Apple were in a major conflict with Qualcom - lawsuits for Africa going both ways - and partnered with Intel for iDevice cellular modems. Intel failed to produce a working chip that includes 5G in time for the next iPhone.
Apple then settled with Qualcom, paying them $$$$$$$$$, but it's already too late for next season's phones.

So, I think that the earliest an iPhone will have 5G would be a mid-year kicker 2020, with a Qualcom 5G modem

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  # 2289116 3-Aug-2019 13:51
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Is there anyone here who really wants a handset with 5G? I can see the benefits of 5G for telemetry and wireless home broadband, but for the foreseeable future I have no interest in having it on my phone. 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2289117 3-Aug-2019 13:53
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5G for fixed wireless yes but mobile data 4G works very well


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  # 2289426 4-Aug-2019 08:56
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Has the government carried out the same investigation on Vodafone's 5G supplies as they did with Huawei?  If so, are they made public?  It would be an interesting comparison.


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  # 2290154 5-Aug-2019 12:56
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5g on Vodafone NZ, still waiting for reliable 3g without network overloaded messages and patchy coverage, let alone real world 3g data or 4g.


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  # 2290160 5-Aug-2019 13:16
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debo:

 

Has the government carried out the same investigation on Vodafone's 5G supplies as they did with Huawei?  If so, are they made public?  It would be an interesting comparison.

 

 

The simple answer (without going into complex detail, some of which can't be disclosed in public anyway) is yes.

 

Under TICSA all major RSP network changes require signoff.

 

 


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  # 2290161 5-Aug-2019 13:20
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5g on Vodafone NZ, still waiting for reliable 3g without network overloaded messages and patchy coverage, let alone real world 3g data or 4g.



Never seen 3G overloaded messages

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  # 2290347 5-Aug-2019 16:24
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Linux:
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5g on Vodafone NZ, still waiting for reliable 3g without network overloaded messages and patchy coverage, let alone real world 3g data or 4g.

 



Never seen 3G overloaded messages

 

Me either, it just stops working, no data in or out. There is no message. When that is happening I can start a voicecall to 777 and it connects, but still no data even after the call. All comes right and back to 4g once airplane mode is cycled.





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  # 2300058 15-Aug-2019 21:52
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freitasm:

 

@duckDecoy:

 

I'm don't really understand all this stuff, so I have a question.

 

We don't currently have fiber, still on VDSL.  We've been trying to get it but are having big issues (needed an OHUG and everything is going wrong).   Should we just wait and jump on 5G when it comes?  I guess I am asking, for a typical household its 5G perfectly adequate or is fiber better?

 

 

Fibre will always be better. 5G will be good if you can't get fibre - also expect it to cost more and have less allowance (as in don't expect unlimited plans on 5G).

 

 

 

 

Living where I do, I expect 5G when 6G has just launched - which will probably be before Chorus give us fibre, at least.

 

 

 

On a side note, I wonder how long the G naming convention will last? Will our great great grandchildren (well, yours, anyway) be thrilled by the new Samsung 300G phone?






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