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  # 2302560 20-Aug-2019 18:32
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GCSB approves Vodafone NZ's plan to build a 5G network with Nokia


 



Really? I thought all the Nokia gear was manufactured in China. What kind of testing does the GCSB do?

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  # 2302561 20-Aug-2019 18:34
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andrewcnz:
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GCSB approves Vodafone NZ's plan to build a 5G network with Nokia

 

 

 

 

 



Really? I thought all the Nokia gear was manufactured in China. What kind of testing does the GCSB do?

 

 

 

Does Trump say it's bad? no? all good then!

 

 

 

in all honesty... launching 5G with only 20mhz is a fools attempt to be "First"

 

Sure your first, but you dont have the bandwidth to actually do what the product is being sold as...then your just going to make 5G results come back with customers's saying they are disappointed with the hype.





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  # 2302601 20-Aug-2019 20:44
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Wow, amazing seeing the number of people on the Vodafone FB page jumping up and down about 5G being bad for their health. But didn't they say that about the old 025 network when it was first launched as well? Everyone would get cancer, etc? Did that actually happen to anyone (serious question)?


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  # 2302608 20-Aug-2019 20:49
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quickymart:

 

Wow, amazing seeing the number of people on the Vodafone FB page jumping up and down about 5G being bad for their health. But didn't they say that about the old 025 network when it was first launched as well? Everyone would get cancer, etc? Did that actually happen to anyone (serious question)?

 

 

I made the mistake of clicking the sponsored ad they posted yesterday and finding that. I felt dumber as it went on.

 

Especially with the 'click this random blog link with un-verified/credited names with doctorate letters after them' being posted as proof.

 

This was a worry however. Without seeing the entire article https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12258787 


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  # 2302610 20-Aug-2019 20:57
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Pls Chris... Take premium off that gold.




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  # 2302644 20-Aug-2019 22:15
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I thought the pic on that story was quite fitting. Is that Bilbo Baggins?


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  # 2302663 20-Aug-2019 23:16
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hio77:

in all honesty... launching 5G with only 20mhz is a fools attempt to be "First"


Sure your first, but you dont have the bandwidth to actually do what the product is being sold as...then your just going to make 5G results come back with customers's saying they are disappointed with the hype.


I have my suspicions that they may well have access to more than 20Mhz. I suspect they are mixing a bit of their own allocation + some temporary. They also appear to have a couple of different blocks in the 3400-3500 range.
I guess it's wait and see for December




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  # 2302707 21-Aug-2019 08:20
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Interesting real world usage results for 5G


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  # 2302720 21-Aug-2019 08:48
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Really? I thought all the Nokia gear was manufactured in China. What kind of testing does the GCSB do?

 

 

 

 

Don't confuse the "Nokia" branded mobile phones with the Nokia telecommunications equipment. Nokia branded phones are a third party company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMD_Global) that has licensed the brand. Nokia telecommunications equipment (used by many telco's in NZ) is the Former Alcatel-Lucent (Bell labs) brands plus a few more high end companies that were bought up. It is European/American in nature. Most of it is USA or Mexico manufactured from what I have seen.


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  # 2302744 21-Aug-2019 09:36
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...Hmmm..Vodafone is NOT stupid to spend millions of dollars just for a hype.

 

 

 

hio77:

 

andrewcnz:
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GCSB approves Vodafone NZ's plan to build a 5G network with Nokia

 

 

 

 

 



Really? I thought all the Nokia gear was manufactured in China. What kind of testing does the GCSB do?

 

 

 

Does Trump say it's bad? no? all good then!

 

 

 

in all honesty... launching 5G with only 20mhz is a fools attempt to be "First"

 

Sure your first, but you dont have the bandwidth to actually do what the product is being sold as...then your just going to make 5G results come back with customers's saying they are disappointed with the hype.

 


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  # 2307627 29-Aug-2019 09:40
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coffeebaron:
hio77:

 

in all honesty... launching 5G with only 20mhz is a fools attempt to be "First"

 

 

 

Sure your first, but you dont have the bandwidth to actually do what the product is being sold as...then your just going to make 5G results come back with customers's saying they are disappointed with the hype.

 


I have my suspicions that they may well have access to more than 20Mhz. I suspect they are mixing a bit of their own allocation + some temporary. They also appear to have a couple of different blocks in the 3400-3500 range.
I guess it's wait and see for December

 

 

 

I don't think the chunk of bandwidth matters at all.

 

Release 15 of the 5G standard that will be used - works in conjunction with 4G. So it won't be a 20MHz chunk all by itself.

 

And then comes Release 16 and 17 that are more sophisticated...




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  # 2307806 29-Aug-2019 13:48
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Just received:

 

 

Vodafone’s first five 5G sites go live for testing in Auckland

 

In the countdown to Vodafone NZ’s 5G launch in December, Vodafone’s network team is celebrating a milestone of five completed 5G site upgrades, with live network testing now underway in Auckland.

 

Located in and around Mangere in South Auckland, the five cellsites feature upgraded Nokia technology, including 5G-enabled antennas, which will start to enable faster speeds and lower latency for Kiwi customers when New Zealand’s 5G network is switched on in December.

 

Tony Baird, Vodafone NZ Technology Director, says: “The team is stoked to have passed this milestone. Five 5G-enabled sites is only just the start – we’re going to have at least 100 cellsites upgraded by December when we switch on our 5G network for customers to access. We’re working hard to upgrade existing cellsites in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Queenstown, which includes extensive testing by our engineers to ensure we’re offering optimum connectivity for our customers at time of launch.”

 

The initial 100 existing cellsites that are being upgraded as part of the pre-launch phase will include inner-city mobile towers in popular and high-traffic locations such as business districts, shopping malls, event centres and airports.

 

Tony adds: “We want as many Kiwis as possible to access our 5G network when we switch it on, so we’re focusing our initial rollout on high-density urban areas in town centres. As part of the 5G testing, we are checking network connectivity and speeds – and we’re confident Kiwis will be impressed by the faster speeds and lower latency that 5G offers.”

 

The Vodafone NZ 5G launch has been enabled by the company’s existing spectrum asset, at the 3.5GHz frequency band, which the company has owned for many years. Tony explains: “When we launch we will be leveraging our existing 56 MHz of spectrum, so the number of Kiwis who will able to try 5G out for themselves will be significant.

 

“As part of our network upgrades, we’re also upgrading 400 existing 4G mobile sites to be 4.5G, which will add additional capability of our customers.”

 

The completion of these five testing sites follows news that the 5G network build with infrastructure partner Nokia has passed the review from the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB), as required under the Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) Act 2013 (TICSA). Vodafone NZ has been advised by the GCSB that the proposed 5G deployment does not raise any network security risk. 

 

“5G will power the next evolution of the Internet of Things (IoT), and will enable hyper-connectivity between machines, smart devices and people. The greater control offered to devices powered by the faster transition speeds and lower latency that 5G offers, complemented by advances in battery life, will mean that Kiwi businesses can use 5G as a tool to develop the next raft of technology innovations.”

 

The Vodafone New Zealand 5G network upgrade program and follows similar rollouts by Vodafone in other countries including the UK, Germany, Italy and Spain all of whom are running live networks now. Innovative use cases that are emerging range from smart boats that tell you when they need fixing with 24/7 automated ticketing and real-time tracking at sea – to using 5G to help a blind skiier to conquer the slopes via her smartphone-holding guide.

 

Tony concludes “We’re excited to bring the future to New Zealand, and help unlock innovations that will enable all New Zealanders to live better, safer, healthier and more connected lives.”

 





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  # 2307887 29-Aug-2019 15:14
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Found under a windscreen-wiper in Wellington this morning

 

 

 

 

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  # 2307905 29-Aug-2019 15:59
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PolicyGuy:

 

Found under a windscreen-wiper in Wellington this morning

 

Sigh

 

Edit: smaller picture

 

 

 

 

Clearly this note misses stepping on small puppies, destabilizing the earths magnetic field,  causing wild fires and of course Cancer in innocent rabbits!


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