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  # 2335076 10-Oct-2019 15:28
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zyo: 

 

Landline is a pretty low margin service (some might argue its legacy even) I'd say skinny simply doesnt want to spend on the training / support infrastructure.

Yeah, I get that - but they actively blocking VOIP? From the reading of their FAQ you can't do VOIP on their system. 

 

 

 

 

Might be trickier to config initially due to CGNAT but nothing is blocked as far as I know.

 

 

 

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=137&topicid=240431


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  # 2335161 10-Oct-2019 17:51
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Quinny:

 

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deadlyllama:

 

The old Vodafone Home Wireless plan (no internet, just phone) made you dial area code prefixes for everything, including local calls.  My mother found it very confusing.  Is that still the case with this new plan?

 

 

@deadlyllama If it over the 3G / 4G network then yes

 

 

 

 

 I will check tonight but do not think this is the case

 

 

 

 

I was WRONG> She does have to put the area code in front of a local call. :(


 
 
 
 


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  # 2335173 10-Oct-2019 18:22
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Quinny:

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deadlyllama:


The old Vodafone Home Wireless plan (no internet, just phone) made you dial area code prefixes for everything, including local calls.  My mother found it very confusing.  Is that still the case with this new plan?



@deadlyllama If it over the 3G / 4G network then yes



 


 I will check tonight but do not think this is the case



 


I was WRONG> She does have to put the area code in front of a local call. :(



We went to spark for my mum for this reason she couldn’t remember to dial 04 to call the neighbour , the spark plan is 60 per month . We had to actually go back to copper as then couldn’t handle the delay in dialling and connecting to a number also found it dropped quite a bit. Only copper and internet plan was unlimited vdsl and landline 109 per month. It’s a joke that telecos won’t provide low internet plans with copper for the elderly

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  # 2335244 10-Oct-2019 22:00
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You could have gone with 2 Degrees for 80 GB per month at $90 including land line, or $85 if she has a gold card. The price is the same for ADSL, VDSL or fibre.


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  # 2335246 10-Oct-2019 22:09
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Wilko:

You could have gone with 2 Degrees for 80 GB per month at $90 including land line, or $85 if she has a gold card. The price is the same for ADSL, VDSL or fibre.



I rang them didn't mention that at all, just checked site thanks that's really good to know appreciate it

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  # 2335247 10-Oct-2019 22:21
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zyo: 

 

Landline is a pretty low margin service (some might argue its legacy even) I'd say skinny simply doesnt want to spend on the training / support infrastructure.

Yeah, I get that - but they actively blocking VOIP? From the reading of their FAQ you can't do VOIP on their system. 

 

 

@sub no they are not blocking it


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  # 2335784 11-Oct-2019 21:13
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My retired mother is looking at switching over to Vodafone's 'Basic Home' package, which is a 4G based service, with 60GB data provided to devices via wifi, a home landline, for about $59 a month. She uses very little data, and this sounds like it might be ideal for her, and lets her to keep monthly costs down. (she currently pays $55 for just a land line)

 

The only potential sticking point is that it comes with one phone, and she is used to having a second handset. Unfortunately it's not clear to me from the description on Vodafone's website whether it's possible to just get another handset and add it to the system. Vodafone don't seem to offer an extra handset.

 

If anyone is familiar with this, I'd love to know what general bits this setup is made up from, ie is it some GSM->wifi router and just a regular DECT (or similar) handset plugged in (which could be replaced with another set of phones), or is the SIM in the phone itself and it some how provides wifi to the house, or some thing else? Just really trying to understand a bit more clearly what this service is. 

 

What brand of phone is it?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

I am. It's a bad deal. 

 

Had a client on same plan, no router included just a 4G phone which for the cost is rip off imho. 

 

May as well have a cellphone with 4G WBB $60 at least you get a router with enough data to stream CC as someone rightly pointed out.    I actually did just for the client, moved her to Spark.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2335805 11-Oct-2019 22:29
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If she is of retirement age, maybe able to get this Vodafone deal with super gold card!

https://www.supergold.govt.nz/offers?filters%5Bspecial%5D%5B%5D=true

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  # 2335814 11-Oct-2019 23:25
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Sorry I just realized you're talking about the $60GB WBB plan.   I thought you meant wireless home phone option.


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  # 2335914 12-Oct-2019 11:45
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Hi

 

 

 

If you are referring to the Basic Home plan here

 

https://www.vodafone.co.nz/broadband/internet-plans/#/Broadband-voice

 

Then service is via a 4G/3G gateway with a panasonic twin DECT handset.

 

The master panasonic plugs into the analog port on the rear of the gateway and the second satellite can go anywhere within range of the hub.

 

Both the hub and the satellite have an AC adapter.

 

Dialing any other landline number currently still requires a area code as part of the dial string.


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  # 2335948 12-Oct-2019 13:20
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Stu1:

 

We went to spark for my mum for this reason she couldn’t remember to dial 04 to call the neighbour , the spark plan is 60 per month . We had to actually go back to copper as then couldn’t handle the delay in dialling and connecting to a number also found it dropped quite a bit. Only copper and internet plan was unlimited vdsl and landline 109 per month. It’s a joke that telecos won’t provide low internet plans with copper for the elderly

 

Copper is an expensive service to provide, and will only get worse over time as more people move off it. If you think that it should be subsidized because someone is old then talk to Winston about that, businesses shouldn't be required to sell something at a loss just because someone is old.

 

From memory when I last used one of the wireless phone things the delay was no worse than a standard cellular call, it seems they had the dial plan worked out on it to put the call in as soon as the last digit for the number was put in.

 

Of cource if they would provide a native dect solution instead of messing about with analog ports so that old junkphones can be plugged in as well then it would be a non issue since you dial the other way on a dect phone just like a mobile.





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  # 2336031 12-Oct-2019 17:44
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cwizzo:

 

Hi

 

 

 

If you are referring to the Basic Home plan here

 

https://www.vodafone.co.nz/broadband/internet-plans/#/Broadband-voice

 

Then service is via a 4G/3G gateway with a panasonic twin DECT handset.

 

The master panasonic plugs into the analog port on the rear of the gateway and the second satellite can go anywhere within range of the hub.

 

Both the hub and the satellite have an AC adapter.

 

Dialing any other landline number currently still requires a area code as part of the dial string.

 

Cheers - that gives me the best description I've had of it so far. 


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  # 2336032 12-Oct-2019 17:48
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richms:

 

Copper is an expensive service to provide, and will only get worse over time as more people move off it. If you think that it should be subsidized because someone is old then talk to Winston about that, businesses shouldn't be required to sell something at a loss just because someone is old.

 

 

Some of us are stuck with copper for the forseeable future. As long as Chorus refuses to bring fibre into our lifestyle village, we are stuck with ADSL 6Mbps (if we are lucky) even though fibre is in the road outside. I don't think Winston has any influence on that!


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  # 2336119 12-Oct-2019 21:26
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Can you get wireless and use that for your phone service instead? (Having said that, I do have some relatives in that situation who can't get anything but copper service).


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  # 2336123 12-Oct-2019 21:49
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quickymart:

 

Can you get wireless and use that for your phone service instead? (Having said that, I do have some relatives in that situation who can't get anything but copper service).

 

 

There is a person nearby who has Spark wireless but it seems to be unreliable, and it isn't unlimited.  I am also with 2 degrees and would prefer not to change provider.


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