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Topic # 26241 16-Sep-2008 13:57
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Just thought I'd update you with my progress on moving house with Fusion. Previously, I posted regarding moving to a house which is currently connected to telstraclear's phone service (both telecom and telstraclear have phone lines on to the property). Where the line comes into the house, either the telecom, or Telstraclear's line is connected to the property.
 
Anyway - the story so far...
A couple of weeks ago, I rang and advised xnet that I wanted to move address, and, could I have the service moved on Friday the 12th. This was agreed with.
 
On Friday the 12, received an email advising that the RFS date would be Monday, the 16th/PM. I had given them a couple of weeks to organise the changeover, so, I was a little disappointed that we would be without a phone / internet over the weekend. I like to think that that was caused by Telecom :-)
 
Last night, tried to connect to the internet - no adsl yet. Went outside, looked up, and the lines into the house had not been switched over.
 
Rang Xnet last night, after the ~15 minute wait to talk to somebody, was advised that yes, someone would have to be sent out to swap the lines over, and, that I would be rung when that would be done. Also, that it could be 2-3 days. The CSR was courteous, and realised what I was talking about quickly. Have not heard from Worldxchange / Chorus when this will be though.
 
Unfortunately, even though there was ample notice of the requested move, it is looking like we will be without phone / internet for a week, which is not going down too well with the other half...
 
Not sure whether there will be an additional charge, over the $85 charge for moving houses, to cover the technician coming out to swap the lines over. I have not been advised of any additional charge, but, I haven't received the phone call advising a time that this will occur. Will update this thread once I receive that call.
 
So - if you are moving to a house, that is currently connected with TelstraClear, be careful, as, Telecom does not seem to know if this is the case.
 
As a side note, It's quite frustrating looking up at the connection to the house, looking at the telecom provided line knowing that there should be a fully functional ADSL connection available on the line, if only you were allowed to just swap the line over yourself...
 

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  Reply # 164865 16-Sep-2008 16:32
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dolsen:
As a side note, It's quite frustrating looking up at the connection to the house, looking at the telecom provided line knowing that there should be a fully functional ADSL connection available on the line, if only you were allowed to just swap the line over yourself...

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  Reply # 164873 16-Sep-2008 16:58
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Only because it's on telecoms side of the demarcation point, therefore, I don't think I'm contractually allowed to. Perhaps the best course of action would have been to say nothing, do it myself, and then I'd be sweet. The only problem with that is that I don't know if there's a list somewhere stating what lines are active / connected, and if at some point in the future, someone from Telecom came and saw that it was connected when it shouldn't be according to their list, they might decide to disconnect me :-(

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 164874 16-Sep-2008 17:07
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dolsen: Only because it's on telecoms side of the demarcation point, therefore, I don't think I'm contractually allowed to. Perhaps the best course of action would have been to say nothing, do it myself, and then I'd be sweet. The only problem with that is that I don't know if there's a list somewhere stating what lines are active / connected, and if at some point in the future, someone from Telecom came and saw that it was connected when it shouldn't be according to their list, they might decide to disconnect me :-(

Na, I wouldn't worry about it. I've done these before, but it's up to you. Personally I'd do it, then when it is working, call Xnet and say "oh my internet has kick in, Telecom don't need to come out now"

And do you think Telstra bothered to tell Telecom in the first place?




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  Reply # 164879 16-Sep-2008 17:21
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coffeebaron:
Na, I wouldn't worry about it. I've done these before, but it's up to you. Personally I'd do it, then when it is working, call Xnet and say "oh my internet has kick in, Telecom don't need to come out now"

And do you think Telstra bothered to tell Telecom in the first place?


Yeah, If I knew earlier what I know now, I think I would do that. Unfortunately, Now I've called xnet and told them specifically why I don't currently have any connection and they need to send someone out to do it, and I've posted, in two separate threads on Geekzone, I'm no longer in a position to just do it myself - especially as I've accepted that I know that under the terms and conditions, I'm not allowed to re-connect the line.

My deniability is now gone :-(





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  Reply # 165307 18-Sep-2008 12:12
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All is good, Internet was re-connected yesterday and happiness has returned to our household :-)

I am a little bit curious as to why there is such a big difference between the Attainable Line Rate and the Actual Line Rate. The Actual Line rate is ~5000Kb/S below the Attainable line rate.

I'm not too concerned about this, as it's still very speedy, however, I am curious.
modem is a RTA1320.
Stats are below.

Line Mode ADSL2+  Line State Show Time  
Line Power State L0  Line Up Time 00:00:39:24 
Line Coding Trellis On  Line Up Count

Statistics Downstream Upstream
Line Rate 16821 Kbps 945 Kbps
Attainable Line Rate 21900 Kbps 945 Kbps
Noise Margin 11.9 dB 15.6 dB
Line Attenuation 19.0 dB 7.5 dB
Output Power 19.0 dBm 12.4 dBm
MSGC (number of bytes in overhead channel message) 60  14 
B (number of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 46  13 
M (number of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame) 16 
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes) 11 
R (number of check bytes in FEC Data Frame) 10  16 
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length) 0.0892  7.5000 
L (number of bits in PMD Data Frame) 5110  256 
D (interleave depth) 256 
Delay 15 
Super Frames 145961  145959 
Super Frame Errors
RS Words 105968164  620325 
RS Correctable Errors 1477 
RS Uncorrectable Errors
HEC Errors 44 
OCD Errors
LCD Errors
Total Cells 93821707  27797395 
Data Cells 787431  371832 
Bit Errors 1457 
Total ES
Total SES
Total UAS 32 


Does anyone have any ideas?


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  Reply # 165335 18-Sep-2008 13:31
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As far as I know the line rate is what you are connected at, and the attainable rate is the maximum if there is no interference (i.e. if all channels are used).  The attainable rate will decrease with increased attenuation, the line rate will decrease with increase in interference.  (Don't take this as 100% fact, it is simply my interpretation.)

In the DSL setup there is an option for seamless rate adaptation.  It is off by default, turn it on.
http://www2.rad.com/networks/2005/adsl/adsl2.htm
I think it is in Advanced -> ADSL or something like that, and then edit the setup.




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