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  #2412656 4-Feb-2020 20:25
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DjShadow:

Also hope their unlimited plan can be more like 2degree's one (tethering allowed and no limitation on youtube pic qual) since this gives the impression they have capacity to burn



There is no need to tether. FWBB is an alternative to UFB and DSL connections to premises.

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  #2412665 4-Feb-2020 20:47
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Can you switch to this if it’s faster than fixed broadband?





 
 
 
 


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  #2423080 18-Feb-2020 11:19
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Now fed up with Vodafone's 120GB and 200GB plans on RBI.

 

 

 

Family visiting from overseas (inc. kids) wipe out the monthly data plan in a matter of DAYS. I have to explain how we are still in the dark ages of metering data usage and the kids look at me like I'm some sort of cave-dwelling neanderthal.

 

 

 

120GB or 200GB/month is no longer fit for purpose in 2020.

 

 

 

Charging $105 or $165/month, and $20 for an extra 15GB is also insane.


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  #2423084 18-Feb-2020 11:34
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RogerMellie:

 

Now fed up with Vodafone's 120GB and 200GB plans on RBI.

 

 

 

Family visiting from overseas (inc. kids) wipe out the monthly data plan in a matter of DAYS. I have to explain how we are still in the dark ages of metering data usage and the kids look at me like I'm some sort of cave-dwelling neanderthal.

 

 

 

120GB or 200GB/month is no longer fit for purpose in 2020.

 

 

 

Charging $105 or $165/month, and $20 for an extra 15GB is also insane.

 

 

@RogerMellie Then move to Copper / HFC / Fibre

 

Let me guess you can't?


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  #2423085 18-Feb-2020 11:41
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RogerMellie:

 

Now fed up with Vodafone's 120GB and 200GB plans on RBI.

 

 

 

Family visiting from overseas (inc. kids) wipe out the monthly data plan in a matter of DAYS. I have to explain how we are still in the dark ages of metering data usage and the kids look at me like I'm some sort of cave-dwelling neanderthal.

 

 

 

120GB or 200GB/month is no longer fit for purpose in 2020.

 

 

 

Charging $105 or $165/month, and $20 for an extra 15GB is also insane.

 

 

@RogerMellie Then move to Copper / HFC / Fibre

 

Let me guess you can't?

 

 

 

 

RBI - rural broadband initiative.

 

No phone line to the property. We have line of sight to a cell tower and get faster speeds over the 4G connection than we ever could via ADSL or VDSL, given the distance to nearest cabinet.

 

I don't think the property will ever have fibre.

 

 

 

 


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  #2423086 18-Feb-2020 11:42
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@RogerMellie Then move to Copper / HFC / Fibre

 

Let me guess you can't?

 

 

That's the problem for many of us that live in the urban/rural fringes. We have old copper infrastructure that Chorus refuse to replace and no options to get connected to fibre. Sure, we can try and get by with 2mbps connections but the world marches and and leaves us behind.


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  #2423087 18-Feb-2020 11:50
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RBI - rural broadband initiative.

 

No phone line to the property. We have line of sight to a cell tower and get faster speeds over the 4G connection than we ever could via ADSL or VDSL, given the distance to nearest cabinet.

 

I don't think the property will ever have fibre.

 

 

What area are you in? Possible there might be a WISP in the area


 
 
 
 


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  #2423089 18-Feb-2020 11:53
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as someone who lives in a rural area, i can certainly appreciate the pain.

 

 

 

Short of going the wisp route, there is a reason it costs so much. Simply put providing service over the air, isn't black magic there is only a limited airtime and it has to be managed or it's a poor user expeience.

 

It's not uncommon for a Rural cell site to be running at a loss providing these plans as it is.

 

 

 

It's always a tough coversation being that i do know both sides of the fence very well...





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  #2423171 18-Feb-2020 13:49
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RogerMellie:

 

I have to explain how we are still in the dark ages of metering data usage and the kids look at me like I'm some sort of cave-dwelling neanderthal.

 

 

It's not the dark ages. Consider that the price you're paying now is pretty much the same price that was being paid in urban areas with wired broadband less than a decade ago.

 

I'd be telling them the truth: that it costs a lot because we live in the countryside (which is where they might be better spending their time instead of using their phones and tablets) and give them examples of the actual cost: more than $1 a GB or about $2.50 an SD movie or $10 an HD movie.

 

At 200GB per month, you've only got 6GB a day so unconstrained/ignorant/city users require active management. If it took a week (because "days" is normally less than a week) to do 200GB then the additional 600GB for the month would be $800 so the options are:

 

* no more broadband this month

 

* user pays for the Flexi Data packs

 

* mobile broadband at a much higher rate. Give them prepay mobile SIMs with $20 preloaded and let them pay for anything else.

 

* Run it like a guest house where you have a device that rate limits and/or enforces quotas on guests: rate limits ensure that streaming video is reduced to low quality; quotas deal with people who want to watch videos all day long.


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  #2423177 18-Feb-2020 14:10
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Hammerer:

 

RogerMellie:

 

I have to explain how we are still in the dark ages of metering data usage and the kids look at me like I'm some sort of cave-dwelling neanderthal.

 

 

It's not the dark ages. Consider that the price you're paying now is pretty much the same price that was being paid in urban areas with wired broadband less than a decade ago.

 

I'd be telling them the truth: that it costs a lot because we live in the countryside (which is where they might be better spending their time instead of using their phones and tablets) and give them examples of the actual cost: more than $1 a GB or about $2.50 an SD movie or $10 an HD movie.

 

At 200GB per month, you've only got 6GB a day so unconstrained/ignorant/city users require active management. If it took a week (because "days" is normally less than a week) to do 200GB then the additional 600GB for the month would be $800 so the options are:

 

* no more broadband this month

 

* user pays for the Flexi Data packs

 

* mobile broadband at a much higher rate. Give them prepay mobile SIMs with $20 preloaded and let them pay for anything else.

 

* Run it like a guest house where you have a device that rate limits and/or enforces quotas on guests: rate limits ensure that streaming video is reduced to low quality; quotas deal with people who want to watch videos all day long.

 

 

You could also couch it in terms of a game - "See how many of your favourite Netflix show you can download when you're at school/the Warehouse/friend's house (insert free Wi-Fi location here)." 
A carrot and the stick sort of approach. The stick being having their home connection drastically throttled.


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  #2423526 18-Feb-2020 21:34
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Hammerer:

 

RogerMellie:

 

I have to explain how we are still in the dark ages of metering data usage and the kids look at me like I'm some sort of cave-dwelling neanderthal.

 

 

It's not the dark ages. Consider that the price you're paying now is pretty much the same price that was being paid in urban areas with wired broadband less than a decade ago.

 

I'd be telling them the truth: that it costs a lot because we live in the countryside (which is where they might be better spending their time instead of using their phones and tablets) and give them examples of the actual cost: more than $1 a GB or about $2.50 an SD movie or $10 an HD movie.

 

At 200GB per month, you've only got 6GB a day so unconstrained/ignorant/city users require active management. If it took a week (because "days" is normally less than a week) to do 200GB then the additional 600GB for the month would be $800 so the options are:

 

* no more broadband this month

 

* user pays for the Flexi Data packs

 

* mobile broadband at a much higher rate. Give them prepay mobile SIMs with $20 preloaded and let them pay for anything else.

 

* Run it like a guest house where you have a device that rate limits and/or enforces quotas on guests: rate limits ensure that streaming video is reduced to low quality; quotas deal with people who want to watch videos all day long.

 

 

I agree with you Mr Hammer. My personal view on this sort of thing is why would you travel around the world just to sit inside at the destination and use the internet all the time? You could do it at home for free! :D


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  #2433982 6-Mar-2020 21:47
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Sorry for digging this up discussion but has anyone signed up and using at the moment? The main thing I use my connection for is video streaming, twitter, updating my blog so I'm assuming that the speed and a 600GB would be more than sufficient? I'm tempted to move to Vodafone because of the mobile deal for $40.





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  #2435255 9-Mar-2020 18:23
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I just wish they were available without a 12 month term contract.

Can’t get Skinny - can get Spark (nice revenue management tactic there Spark) and can get Vodafone. Unfortunately both Spark and Vodafone want a 12 month term. Not practical for my situation at the moment.




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  #2435406 9-Mar-2020 22:43
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you can get the home-wireless on an open plan, you just need to buy the modem or supply your own 


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