This is the worst I have ever struck - So phoned xnet who said it is currently being fine tuned and to hold tight for a couple of days (which I will happily do) then they added "although if you were not on the torrent plan then you would of had full speed."
Not quiet true, as pay-per-meg users are still fighting for enough international bandwidth (currently the Torrent pool will have the vast majority of the total bandwidth Xnet have, and the rest will be fore pay-per-meg users).
Surely they cant sell this plan as FS down when infact they cap it? I thought thats what other ISP's got in trouble for last year?????
Then got talking to another mate on the otherside of my town in Riccarton (who i recoomended xnet too) and he said he was getting 100k/s+ over night (still not fast but easily workable)!
Its not capped, your just fighting for bandwidth among the other Torrent users, instead of before when you were fighting for bandwidth from Torrent and non-torrent plan users. Which isnt fair because pay-per-meg users should not have to fight for bandwidth against Torrent plan users, they should 'fight/share' bandwidth with other pay-per-meg users.
The same with Torrent plan users, they should be sharing bandwidth between other Torrent plan users not pay-per-meg users. In an ideal world there would be enough bandwidth for all but, this isnt an ideal world so there will always be performance compromises or cost compromises, either pay Xnet more each month so they can buy more international bandwidth or Xnet do their best to distribute the bandwidth accordingly.
If the average Torrent user is downloading 40Gb a month, and Xnet have 100 users (obviously these are made up numbers, but the point is still the same). Then they will be allocating (40 * 100) + 20% (20% = trying to accommodate for the users who download more) for the Total bandwidth for the Torrent plan users. Xnet probably cannot actually garranty 75 GB a month for each user because their total revenue will not cover the extra cost of the 75GB per user.
Hmmmm but gameplanet is national, innit? I simply can`t believe Xnet would throttle or pool the entire torrent plan. Then we shouldn’t have to pay any extra for day time usage. What for?
Torrent users are pooled for 12->8am data. During the day torrent users have the same speeds as pay-per-meg users.
The reason the Torrent users were pooled is because they were degrading the service across the board, not just for pay-per-meg users but also for Torrent users who were trying to browse the web (aka not BitTorrent).
Also the plan is not throttled at all, your just put in a pool with all the other Torrent plan users and you all have to share a set amount of bandwidth.
Think of it as being in a bath tub and you have a cup that you can dip into it and take some water (bandwidth) out, well if someone (or a large number of people) comes with a bucket they will take more of the water (eg: bandwidth) than you. When the bath tub is empty no one can get any more water (bandwidth).
For the Torrent users complaining of less than 10kbps, spare a thought for the pay-per-meg users who were (before this Torrent plan pooling) getting timed out trying to get to ANY international webpage, (streaming video was impossible after 12, streaming audio was also impossible unless you had a multi-connection server, etc).
TameIti: The plan isnt being throttled. End of story.
One person with different results isnt enough.
I know the solution to all our problems: one single state-owned ISP hehe. NZ is simply too small to carry so many ISP`s.
This is exactly why they should not pool a plan. Because there may be torrent plan users who wish to browse or play online games at night occasionally, but it`s impossible. Now why is this person discriminated against compared to the geezer on the regular Fusion plan?
attilathegorilla:yeah I know that, but even torrenters may wanna occasionally do other than just download at night.
Its the price that torrenters pay for having the 75Gb free a month (they can still download 75Gb even with these slower speeds that are coming because of being pooled), non-torrent plan users pay by not being able to download 75Gb for free but get the benefit of not being pooled with Torrent plan users who exhaust their avaliable bandwidth.
You can't have all the perks, you need to make a compromise somewhere.
- Calvin and Hobbes (Bill Watterson)
Tunk: Really, I dont see why people are attacking torrent customers over this.
It is xnets fault, not torrent customers that this is happening as xnet supplies the service.
It IS NOT up to other customers to impose or demand other prices, restrictions, or conditions on the service of other customers.
Sure torrent customers get a 'free' 75gb after hours, but keep in mind that its xnet that is offering this plan and they are still PAYING customers just like the pay as you goes (and they pay more onpeak).
Each torrent customer requires atleast 750kbps between 12-8 in order to use up that 75gb monthly, as they are entitled to under the plan.
If xnet had not planned for or restricted customer numbers accordingly it is them failing to deliver the service, not torrent customers scumming it up for everyone else.
- Calvin and Hobbes (Bill Watterson)