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  Reply # 17250 29-Jul-2005 16:32
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I've sought the proper channels, they are illusive... Private APNs don't come cheap but you're right I might just have to bite the bullet.

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Reply # 17254 29-Jul-2005 18:06
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Just got the information that a non-proxy, firewalled APN will be available to any interested customer - no date set yet.

This should be what you are looking for...




 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 17256 29-Jul-2005 18:28
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my god, that's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks for the info. That was a close call, we were actually considering using telecom for a while there. I should whinge on this forum more often...

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  Reply # 17258 29-Jul-2005 22:01
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If anyone does find out details about the new APN, could they post it here?

From our experience, the only way to avoid the optimizers is to make sure that you don't look anything like a webserver (ie don't run on port 80 etc).

And with regards to the "internet" APN, I believe (at one stage at least) that it needs to enabled against your account. I know that some of our SIMs can use it (and they get a public IP) whereas other SIMs get a firewall/NAT'd address no matter what APN we use.

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Reply # 17259 29-Jul-2005 23:46
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James_: That was a close call, we were actually considering using telecom for a while there. I should whinge on this forum more often...
Pardon me, but... If Telecom has the service you want, and if this is a requirement, what would be the problem using it?






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Reply # 17260 30-Jul-2005 00:07
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I just changed my APN in my i-Mate PocketPC from the "www.vodafone.net.nz" to the "internet".

SUCCESS!!!! no images were blittered down or rescaled in any way. It was also horriblesome slow compared to the harrier (and probably way more expensive. Thanks Muppet!!, I'll do more tests like proxies and tracerouts on it in the coming weekend.

This worked on Prepay SIM1 (the one which seems to work with everything that has ever existed and has been around a long line of network testers), It did not work with prepay sim 2 however. (an off the shelf one) though nor did the "www.vodafone.net.nz APN

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  Reply # 17264 30-Jul-2005 00:57
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I did some tests just the other day.... Internet didn't do squat.

Did you clear your browser's cache before each dialup test?




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  Reply # 17266 30-Jul-2005 02:01
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it was a Hard reset. she's well cleared, Though the "before" pictures were on memory. though that GIF image was not "sandy" this time round.
Maybe it was just a random but it worked. I'll do more thorough tests including testing images and save the results for all to see if this works.

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  Reply # 17314 31-Jul-2005 18:41
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Remember that images going via https will not be optimised.




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Reply # 17320 31-Jul-2005 22:09
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OK I give up. After all it IS Vodafone.

After playing around now ALL my images are uncompressed regardless of how I connect (either APN so i've been forced to turn them all off to stop chewing data usage. So i'm not doing any further testing as I cannot replicate sorry. Looks like it's now switched off the optimisation permanently

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  Reply # 17327 1-Aug-2005 08:58
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That is not how it ought to work. The proxy sits in between you and the Internet and intercepts http requests. It makes the request to the actual server for you, grabs the reply, compresses it and sends it on. The actual type of compression will depend on whether or not you have the client going, if you don't then it is compression that standard browsers can uncompress. So if an APN is routed through the compression then it will be compressed, unless you do the CTRL-refresh trick to reload an image.

The problem as I understand it is that there are currently no unrestricted unverified APN's that do not pass through the optimiser. This seems to be an oversight on the part of Vodafone and I gather is to be corrected as soon as the bureaucracy can spring into life. As discussed bove, it is no skin off VF's nose if you don't want your data compressed.

If you think you are not seeing compression, you should check that the data is not cached already.

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Reply # 17335 1-Aug-2005 12:10
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Can't understand why you would bother actually. If you want an open internet connection that accepts all internet protocols and doesn't block ports go with Telecom CDMA.

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  Reply # 17337 1-Aug-2005 12:18
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@Jama: Because the handsets aren't a laughable joke?

Your post wasn't helpful at all, he asked how might it be possible to get around the Vodafone limitation, not for a pissing contest about which provider is better.




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Reply # 17340 1-Aug-2005 12:32
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Not at all... I've asked this already. It is an application that requires a special server configuration, and the OP did not say it is something for handsets.

My original question was why not use another cellular provider, if one technology is proving a barrier for the development.

We haven't heard anything on this yet.









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  Reply # 17341 1-Aug-2005 12:35
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Jama: Can't understand why you would bother actually. If you want an open internet connection that accepts all internet protocols and doesn't block ports go with Telecom CDMA.
Because Vodafone employ hot girls and I enjoy going in there for meetings. Also it would be difficult to persuade our client to swap all the hardware they already own. But mainly the former.

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