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  Reply # 303259 1-Mar-2010 13:02
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foamfollower: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/3388067/Software-glitches-delay-TelstraClears-recorder

" Mr Doyle says the first issue concerns the integration of digital rights management (DRM) technology in the boxes with TelstraClear's servers. Integration is complicated by the fact DRM has to work across both its new and existing set-top boxes. The second concerns a software feature that lets users rewind and fast-forward programmes at high speeds.  


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I wonder if that means no fast forwarding thru ads??


If it does, that would pretty much kill it off.  Not much point in a PVR without a 30s and 2m skip.




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  Reply # 303274 1-Mar-2010 13:28
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Without trying to be accused of trolling - I would have thought "fast-forward programmes at high speeds" would be fairly critical to a PVR!  How can a feature as core as this be something that is in the last 5% of things to get right - surely it should have been in the first 5%, along with play and stop!!

I like TelstraClear not a bad service for not a bad price - they need to learn from Telecom's mistakes - get it right first time or suffer the sharp wit of NZ.  Why tease us with delivery dates when the product is still in a testing phase?  You don't see Apple doing that!

Suggestion: TelstraClear, don't start charging the extra fee until all the problems are ironed out.  This will give us chance to use and abuse the kit without being able to complain about the cost.  It will also be an incentive to stay with TCL rather than switching to a competitor as we wait, and wait, and wait..... 

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  Reply # 303277 1-Mar-2010 13:34
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Many PVR's stop the one button press to fast forward in 30s blocks since that makes it easier to skip ads (being they are usually 30s or 60s long). But they never block fast forwarding in general. So perhaps the issue is, how to disable the one button skip.

For many years Tivo had this feature and then it was disabled but astute users could enable it by a remote control seqeuence.




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  Reply # 303280 1-Mar-2010 13:42
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Ahhh I see the distinction - my Panny HDD has the skip (30s) and manual skip where you can select multiples of whole minutes which is great for skipping the ads.




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  Reply # 303347 1-Mar-2010 16:50
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Just noticed some pictures of the Home Media unit have appeared on TelstraClear's facebook page

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  Reply # 303362 1-Mar-2010 17:07
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That's impressive. And with the LAN and USB ports there are all sorts of possibilities. Of course, we don't actually know what we'll be able to do with any of those ports...

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  Reply # 305663 9-Mar-2010 12:32
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What are the chances that we will be able to stream a channel down our(home wifi) local network and watch a channel on the laptop downstairs for example?





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  Reply # 305668 9-Mar-2010 12:57
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djpaubes: What are the chances that we will be able to stream a channel down our(home wifi) local network and watch a channel on the laptop downstairs for example?



Probably fairly minimal. Broadcasters are being tied into DRM by content providers and don't really have a choice in many cases.

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  Reply # 305669 9-Mar-2010 12:59
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hmm I may have to start another thread and ask ok what other options do I have rather than buying a radio transmitter widget?




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  Reply # 308332 17-Mar-2010 15:29
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Well it seems they are finally broadcasting "something".... But not DVB.




SKY Sport 1 HD - p:SkyNZ - 0641:ffff0000:0010:00b6:25:213
SKY Movies HD - p:SkyNZ - 0642:ffff0000:0010:00b6:25:214
SKY Sport 2 HD - p:SkyNZ - 06a5:ffff0000:0011:00b6:25:224
SM Greats HD - p:SkyNZ - 06a6:ffff0000:0011:00b6:25:236
TV ONE HD (WEL) - p:TVNZ - 0709:ffff0000:0012:00b6:25:244
TV2 HD (WEL) - p:TVNZ - 070a:ffff0000:0012:00b6:25:252
TVONE (HD ChCh Freeview) - p:TVNZ - 076d:ffff0000:0013:00b6:25:253
TV2 (HD ChCh Freeview) - p:TVNZ - 076e:ffff0000:0013:00b6:25:254
TV3 HD - p:SkyNZ - 07d1:ffff0000:0014:00b6:25:255

And it starts at 506Mhz and goes up to 538.

TP10 Freq 506000 Symbol 6956500
TP11 Freq 514000 Symbol 6956500
TP12 Freq 522000 Symbol 6956500
TP13 Freq 530000 Symbol 6956500
TP14 Freq 538000 Symbol 6956500

Seems like they are sourcing TV3 HD off Sky, rather than Freeview (probably to not have the Chch/Wlg TV3 Ads and needing two streams... ahh the fun of content rebroadcasting).

And it's not standard DVB stream either with a audio pid/video pid etc. Something very strange that won't work with non-provider boxes. Oh well that's a bother.

SDT-decoding....
Table_ID: 66 (0x42)  [= Service Description Table (SDT) - actual transport stream]
Transport_Stream_ID: 18 (0x0012)
Original_network_ID:  182 (0x00b6)  [= Telstra Saturn | TelstraSaturn Limited]
    Service_id: 1801 (0x0709)  [=  --> refers to PMT program_number]
            DVB-DescriptorTag: 72 (0x48)  [= service_descriptor]
            service_type: 25 (0x19)  [= advanced codec HD digital television service] <- This is weird!
            service_provider_name_length: 4 (0x04)
            service_provider_name: "TVNZ"  -- Charset: Latin alphabet
            service_name_length: 15 (0x0f)
            Service_name: "TV ONE HD (WEL)"  -- Charset: Latin alphabet
            DVB-DescriptorTag: 115 (0x73)  [= default_authority_descriptor]
            descriptor_length: 17 (0x11)
            Default_authority:
                 0000:  63 72 69 64 3a 2f 2f 74  76 6e 7a 2e 63 6f 2e 6e   crid://tvnz.co.n
                 0010:  7a                                                 z

crid... hummm what's that all about.

Anyway.. at least there is something "real" on the "real live network".





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  Reply # 308353 17-Mar-2010 16:03
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lol looks like thy're playing silly buggers


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  Reply # 308356 17-Mar-2010 16:06
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*lol* At least they have the humour :-D

They should do a shout-out to Geekzone :-D

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  Reply # 308360 17-Mar-2010 16:15
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Now, if only my smartcard had these channels enabled, I'm sure I'd be able to watch them through my software...

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  Reply # 308363 17-Mar-2010 16:17
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Looks like they've changed it back now.

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  Reply # 308436 17-Mar-2010 18:51
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GUTTED!!! I missed out on that... I would have been a legend in my own mind.

When I scanned there was no PMT but if sub was seeing that then there must have been.. Will have to check again.





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