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  Reply # 282452 14-Dec-2009 19:39
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Youtube been on and off bad for the last month for me in Christchurch. Could be youtube though as sometimes the clip is really slow, then the next clip seems ok. In general though, the HD clips won't stream without buffering.

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  Reply # 282468 14-Dec-2009 20:39
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Out of interest has anyone done tracert's to the youtube servers on TelstraClear, do they route locally to the google cache on xtra or is New Zealand's fubar'ed peering policy still going strong and we are tromboning traffic internationally.

I will have a long hard chuckle if TelstraClear now have to route youtube internationally even though there's a big fat cache in NZ because they 'depeered' from the NZ internet backbone.




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  Reply # 282469 14-Dec-2009 20:48
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Just did a traceroute to one of the servers I was watching a video from:

traceroute v10.lscache6.c.youtube.com
traceroute to v10.lscache6.l.google.com (74.125.103.84), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 dd-wrt (192.168.1.1) 2.131 ms 1.084 ms 2.400 ms
2 121-73-99-1.cable.telstraclear.net (121.73.99.1) 16.508 ms 24.362 ms 25.784 ms
3 * * *
4 ie1-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net (203.98.50.1) 24.303 ms 31.808 ms 23.866 ms
5 ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net (203.98.50.251) 25.414 ms 26.989 ms 24.582 ms
6 203.167.233.10 (203.167.233.10) 25.320 ms 27.962 ms 25.787 ms
7 i-14-1-0.wil-core02.bx.reach.com (202.84.141.21) 178.574 ms 150.710 ms 152.204 ms
8 i-1-2.tlot03.bi.reach.com (202.84.251.238) 155.153 ms 158.507 ms 163.105 ms
9 72.14.197.53 (72.14.197.53) 160.532 ms 162.069 ms 162.173 ms
10 216.239.43.14 (216.239.43.14) 153.874 ms * 155.170 ms
11 72.14.238.130 (72.14.238.130) 166.397 ms
209.85.249.226 (209.85.249.226) 199.493 ms 170.903 ms
12 209.85.240.230 (209.85.240.230) 166.873 ms 162.351 ms
72.14.239.253 (72.14.239.253) 165.143 ms
13 * * *
14 74.125.103.84 (74.125.103.84) 163.247 ms 167.096 ms 166.939 ms

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  Reply # 282481 14-Dec-2009 21:47
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I'm just testing with my own caching DNS server to see if it makes any difference.... I doubt it will, but it's worth a try!




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  Reply # 282486 14-Dec-2009 22:21
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I am totally over this. Takes minutes to load 30 seconds of a YouTube video.

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  Reply # 282497 14-Dec-2009 23:19
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Is it with ALL youtube clips or just some of them?

I have noticed a general slowdown in youtube for all providers that are not cached recently including the work connection which was buffering endlessly today.

Uncached on Bigtime plan it's buffering badly too but when refreshed it's playing fine.

v8.cache2.c.youtube.com - before caching it
v16.lscache1.c.youtube.com - after caching it

v3.cache6.c.youtube.com - before
v19.lscache2.c.youtube.com - after

video was "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVDE-6TtmFQ&fmt=18" a tutorial on how to make an old ti 99 computer speak, yes probably super retro and boring to most of you!

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  Reply # 282509 15-Dec-2009 03:01
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Okay what's up with this? Right now is an example of youtube loading way too slow; I have to pause it if I want to watch it smoothly. But instead of doing that, I enabled VPN and then youtube loads perfectly?

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  Reply # 282649 15-Dec-2009 12:39
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Ive had international issues(gaming) for a few weeks now which include youtube. All I can put it down to is TCL throttling international bandwidth to increase profits or we are getting congestion again.

I rang the call centre and was confronted by an obnoxius CSR who was full of knowledge that it was my issue. So I gave up. Moving house in a few months so will ditch TCL if it hasnt improved.

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  Reply # 282665 15-Dec-2009 13:04
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  Reply # 282921 15-Dec-2009 21:04
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have been having these issues a few months but never really took notice until I streamed at someone elses house on DSL and it was much faster.

10Mbit Cable in Chch.

Have found one workaround in the meantime is to browse youtube via a proxy, have just used random ones off free proxy lists and can more or less stream non HD smoothly (limited by the proxy speed).

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  Reply # 283019 16-Dec-2009 08:32
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Its not just telstraclear, I have the same problem with vodafone DSL in Christchurch after about 7pm any evening.. takes over an hour to download a 5 minute youtube vid..

pretty sad, probably find the problem is just too much data from all the users of internet at that time trying to get their data through a tiny pipe..





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  Reply # 283021 16-Dec-2009 08:41
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Actually folks, I am going to lock this thread - please follow up any replies to the existing (and older) discussion on YouTube problems on TelstraClear.




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