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Topic # 56839 25-Jan-2010 19:41
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Hi I live in new plymouth. over the last month or so they have put in a new whisper cabinet. code FLH/B

Its all in. Im still connecting with G.DMT i have it set to auto so it can change if it needs to and i restart my modem in vien every night when i get home from work just incase. Im using a WAG160N which does adsl2+ (im on the vfx fuision plan)

The cabinet has been in for around a month now. they have even taken the old smaller cabinet away.

The question is Does xnet have to change me over to adsl2? i contacted them and they said it will sync to the max speed it can. and adsl2 isnt available yet.

When i contacted xtra i said if they could provide me with adsl2 i would swap, they told me that yes i am connected to a cabinet that is equiped with adsl2.

The telecom website says that adsl2 is scheduled for april. But it just seems strange that im getting two differnt stories from both parties. 

 I contacted Chorus all they could tell me was yes the cabinet was in place (I already new this cause it was prety much at the end of my drive lol)

these are my stats

DSL Driver Version:  AnnexA version - A2pB022g.d20e
DSL VPI/VCI:         0/100
DSL Status:          ShowtimeRetrain Reason: 0
DSL Mode:            G.DMT
DSL Channel:         FAST
DSL Upstream Rate:   832 Kbps
DSL Downstream Rate: 6176 Kbps

                      Down         up   
DSL Noise Margin:    11.4 dB      12.0 dB
DSL Attenuation:     39.0 dB      24.0 dB
DSL Transmit Power:  19.7 dBm     11.9 dBm

I would have thought even if my cabinet wasnt adsl2 enabled yet my attenuation would have droped as befor they put this in i was around 3k from the exchange now im about 200m from the new cabinet

I just feal like im not getting the full story... has anybody had experince like this where the cabinet has just gone in near them? how long does it take before i will sync to adsl2 and do i need to contact xnet to sort out my profile so i can sync at adsl2.

question 2? even if i was on an adsl1 plan would i still sinc at adsl2 speeds and just get capped so i know what to look for.

Thanks hope sombody can put some light on the issue i just dont want to be missing out on somthing that i shoudl be getting.




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  Reply # 292970 25-Jan-2010 20:08
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Chorus website says scheduled cutover date is 25th Feb so it isn't live yet.



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  Reply # 292978 25-Jan-2010 20:42
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could you point me in the direction of that page i have had a good hunt on google thanks.




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  Reply # 292979 25-Jan-2010 20:44
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Telecom do about 6 weeks testing before it goes live (according to a telecom tech)

I had the same thing here the cabinet was in everything looked like it was ready to go and the dates on the chorus website kept changing, then one day adsl2+

In regards to your second question you should still sync at ADSL2 but if your provider limits bandwidth then it should be done at the ISP - are there still providers offering non-adsl2 plans?



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  Reply # 292980 25-Jan-2010 20:46
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ok cool thanks guys put my mind at rest thought i was missing out on somthing so i should see it in about 6 weeks you say? thats 6weeks to long lol.

sbiddle found the xl spreed sheet thanks will book mark it cool

much apreaciate the help.




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  Reply # 293040 26-Jan-2010 07:06
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When the cabinet is cutover (this is done by Telecom after testing is complete) you will automatically resync at adsl2+ , on Fusion you should have full dsl2+




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  Reply # 293145 26-Jan-2010 14:09
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Bravo maverick. I can always trust a clean answer from you

thanks again

Will post my stats back on here to let anyone intreasted know what they are after the local loop has been shortend by the cabinet

just cause i can haha




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  Reply # 293149 26-Jan-2010 14:16
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Just to make it clear.

On Xnet, standard DSL plans with phone line will only sync at ADSL1 speeds. Only Naked DSL service from Xnet provides ADSL2+ sync/speeds.

So if you have standard broadband connection, then you will not receive ADSL2+ speeds with xnet.




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  Reply # 293152 26-Jan-2010 14:36
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im on naked dsl thanks billgates




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  Reply # 293162 26-Jan-2010 15:29
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billgates: Just to make it clear.

On Xnet, standard DSL plans with phone line will only sync at ADSL1 speeds. Only Naked DSL service from Xnet provides ADSL2+ sync/speeds.

So if you have standard broadband connection, then you will not receive ADSL2+ speeds with xnet.


As he stated he is on a Fusion plan




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  Reply # 298472 12-Feb-2010 19:49
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billgates: Just to make it clear.

On Xnet, standard DSL plans with phone line will only sync at ADSL1 speeds. Only Naked DSL service from Xnet provides ADSL2+ sync/speeds.

So if you have standard broadband connection, then you will not receive ADSL2+ speeds with xnet.


Sorry to dig up the thread but the pedant in me needs to point out the error in that statement.
The ISP has no control over the sync speeds, if you're on an adsl2 exchange you'll sync at adsl2 speeds, the isp can only limit the throughput.
So you're correct about the River and the Flood plan being limited to adsl1 speeds but the modem will still be using the adsl2 modulation and you could sync up to 24mbit (theoretical max adsl2 speed) but the limitation to adsl1 is done at the ISP's end.
Hope that makes sense, long week and I can't think very well ;d



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  Reply # 302029 25-Feb-2010 12:04
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Ok guys. As of around 10am this morning my ADSL2+ has been cut over here are my new stats

DSL Driver Version: AnnexA version - A2pB022g.d20e
DSL VPI/VCI: 0/100
DSL Status: ShowtimeRetrain Reason: 8000
DSL Mode: ADSL2+
DSL Channel: FAST
DSL Upstream Rate: 1029 Kbps
DSL Downstream Rate: 17262 Kbps

Down up
DSL Noise Margin: 12.0 dB 12.8 dB
DSL Attenuation: 18.0 dB 8.5 dB
DSL Transmit Power: 18.5 dBm 12.4 dBm

as you can see the attenuation has improved alot due to the new cabinet.

speed test still seems very low to me though.

https://www.speedtest.net/result/728154318.pngURL]

its prety much what i was getting befor at this time of day. this was a better result of a few i did. Some were as low as 1.2mbs

i thought maybe my profile hadnt been changed over at the xnet end? i Know maverick said that it would hapen automaticly. I emailed xnet to ask i also gave them my stats

this was there response

Hi there

I can confirm we have no limit on your line and can see you connected @
17262/1029kbps.

The downstream limit on your line we have set is 24mbps.

Kind regards,
Persons Name


This person answered within 4mins of me sending the email. It makes me suspect that he just gave a generic answer. from what you guys have been saying i could still sync at adsl2+ speeds but be capped by the ISP. to me he just looked at my stats and thought no your not capped it says 17mbs.

What are your thoughts thanks

Maybe a backhual problem?
Note: my pings have gone down alot and are much more stable now i have been cut over :)




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Reply # 302032 25-Feb-2010 12:11
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grudge: Sorry to dig up the thread but the pedant in me needs to point out the error in that statement.
The ISP has no control over the sync speeds, if you're on an adsl2 exchange you'll sync at adsl2 speeds, the isp can only limit the throughput.


Wholesale faults can force ADSL 1 on the port if the ISP requests it. Some old UBS lines will also keep their ADSL1 profiles when migrated to an Alcatel 7302. It always pays to check.




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