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  Reply # 301242 22-Feb-2010 21:44
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So for instance during the rugby world cup in NZ would the sudden influx of tourists cause more problems for not just XT but all our network operators like we are seeing with at the moment with XT?

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  Reply # 301275 22-Feb-2010 22:48
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i agree though, some sort of decent txting plan to all networks (eg the txt component of Starter 600) , not just Vodafone would be a rather large carrot, especially with the currently XT networks

I see on Vodafone's site now is "Welcome to New Zealand's reliable mobile network."

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 301639 23-Feb-2010 20:03
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lolcano: LOL good call


Pun?

DjShadow: IMO its the #1 thing Vodafone can do to win customers back, offer on prepay all-network texting bundles instead of on-net offers only


Agreed.

Even in light of Telecom's screw ups lately, I haven't had any trouble with services on my XT side in Auckland.

I'm in the transition stage at this moment with moving from Vodafone to Telecom.





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  Reply # 301677 23-Feb-2010 22:01
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Same here, I switched to XT when it first came out and have had no problems here in hamilton with XT..
Ahh, correction, one problem first time it went down, but everyone did that day I think, since then its been rock solid.
XT's Signal is always strong and DATA just flys all the time..
With Vodafone I had a lot of slow data problems and disconnections in hamilton..

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  Reply # 301683 23-Feb-2010 22:14
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lolcano: Another day another Telecom XT fail. I'm a typical young adult; poor & enjoys txting. My friends and I all recently changed to XT simply for the $12 "unlimited" txting plan to ANY network. AWESOME we thought. Not anymore due to the xt network packing a sad for the 4th time as i type this.

I am pleading to Vodafone, please give us a txt plan to any network and i can almost guarentee half of all New Zealands young adults will switch within a week sending your profits sky high and showing Telecom that cutting costs on reliable gear serves them right.


If the XT press release is to be believed, the problems are mainly due to overloading. If Vodafone was to put out a plan like this it is highly likely the same thing would happen to them...


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  Reply # 302469 26-Feb-2010 13:50
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Unlimited txting plan is No doubt overloading the network. Lol. 10 dollars a month for unlimited txt is hurting telecoms revenue. But it's the only way to win back some more customers on to telecom network. This marketing stupidity was Originally introduced by telecom and now hurting telecoms new network. Why not offer more voice minutes instead of more txts? Voice call is simply set too expensive. I don't have time to txt! I have time to call!! That's why I haven't txt anybody for half a year. I use voip :-)

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Reply # 302473 26-Feb-2010 13:57
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harrylin: Unlimited txting plan is No doubt overloading the network.


No its not

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  Reply # 302503 26-Feb-2010 15:36
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johnr:
harrylin: Unlimited txting plan is No doubt overloading the network.


No its not


Nice!

You must pull your hair out at times in here John.

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  Reply # 302529 26-Feb-2010 17:06
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Lol. That's why txting is so cheap here in NZ. But voice calls are prohibitively expensive. This is how big telcos do here in NZ. Don't have money to call? Just txt then!!! Lol.

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  Reply # 302536 26-Feb-2010 17:25
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I've never understood why vodafone has hardly made much effort in the txting area in terms of prepaid.

its known that young people will move networks quite readily, shown by XT's unlimited txt service, but honest i'd probably have joined vodafone long ago if they offered some kind of decent text plan (2000 txts to vodafone only is simply not viable nowadays). And with XT screwing up at the moment, what better time is there to offer it?

It makes sense too, they can pull over younger customers with txt plans, and then its also likely they they will make use of the music+data addons+ringtones etc.

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  Reply # 303293 1-Mar-2010 14:32
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eXDee: I've never understood why vodafone has hardly made much effort in the txting area in terms of prepaid.

its known that young people will move networks quite readily, shown by XT's unlimited txt service, but honest i'd probably have joined vodafone long ago if they offered some kind of decent text plan (2000 txts to vodafone only is simply not viable nowadays). And with XT screwing up at the moment, what better time is there to offer it?

It makes sense too, they can pull over younger customers with txt plans, and then its also likely they they will make use of the music+data addons+ringtones etc.
plus a certain percentage of them stick with telecom as they grow up and become much bigger adult spenders, as I've done




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  Reply # 305036 6-Mar-2010 15:42
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Well I think Vodafone needs to stop spending money on silly adverts which a lot of people clearly don't like, and start spending money on releasing a competitive text plan. If they make a tiny leak just hinting an unlimited text bundle, the media will most likely go crazy and everyone will talk about it which will cover up the loss for lack of advertising. Only thing keeping a lot of people on Vodafone is the fact that telecom is only WCDMA and those phones are usually expensive. If they opened up a 2G network just for texting and calls, then they would make a killing.




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  Reply # 305038 6-Mar-2010 15:53
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tardtasticx: Well I think Vodafone needs to stop spending money on silly adverts which a lot of people clearly don't like, and start spending money on releasing a competitive text plan. If they make a tiny leak just hinting an unlimited text bundle, the media will most likely go crazy and everyone will talk about it which will cover up the loss for lack of advertising. Only thing keeping a lot of people on Vodafone is the fact that telecom is only WCDMA and those phones are usually expensive. If they opened up a 2G network just for texting and calls, then they would make a killing.


Not enitrely.

Another reason people are staying on Vodafone is because Telecom's XT service has been un-realiable to some of those customers.
Not personally though, I get mostly good service from either companies, and have NEVER had interuppted service on Telecom XT.


I don't think people are staying off telecom because of the WCDMA thing. You can get WCDMA phones relatively cheap these days (yes a little more expensive than the GSM ones, however not by much).

Opening a 2G network after deploying a 3G only one, would be a step in the wrong direction for Telecom.
Since in parts of NZ, Vodafone have 3G only. At some stage they will end up going the full hog also - leaving 2G in the dust, where CDMA is.
So it's a bit like chucking money where its not needed.

I actually quite like the adverts. I wouldn't rave about then, and I definitely prefered the May-Fly one from Vodafone (and similar), but they are no more irritating than some other companies crap they place on TV. For example the Richard Hammond ads Telecom had playing for a while - now THEY were irritating. After seeing those a few too many times, I would be more than happy to throw a cellphone at his head.


Just my two cents.





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  Reply # 305043 6-Mar-2010 16:05
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Here's a revolutionary idea; Pay for what you use!! And use what you can afford.

My contract plan gives me 20 texts (to any network) per month, every SMS beyond that is 20c/time (to any network)....

I know this and I am therefore conservative with my texting, and/or, accept the bill i'm footing for making use of the service.

'all you can eat' txting plans are a bit like the original 'flat rate dialup' or even worse, flat rate DSL plans.  The folks who hook on, spend a relatively small amount of $ in proportion to the resources they consume, so i'm not surprised Voda havn't been quick to jump.

At least my 200-minutes-to-any-network have a limit, thus Vodafone can at least have some idea of what i'm likely to incur them in the way of costs in any billing period, vs the fixed income they receive from me.

I must be old fashioned? To believe in actually realising that my actions on the cellphone network do have a cost, and that I shouldn't ask for the earth?

(Now if Voda wanted to offer a fixed Qty of Texts to any network, for an amount of money that actually provides them with some margin for doing so, then good stuff. But anyone who expects unlimited texting to any network, is in need of a head-check.)




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  Reply # 305044 6-Mar-2010 16:08
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BlakJak: Here's a revolutionary idea; Pay for what you use!! And use what you can afford.

My contract plan gives me 20 texts (to any network) per month, every SMS beyond that is 20c/time (to any network)....

I know this and I am therefore conservative with my texting, and/or, accept the bill i'm footing for making use of the service.

'all you can eat' txting plans are a bit like the original 'flat rate dialup' or even worse, flat rate DSL plans.  The folks who hook on, spend a relatively small amount of $ in proportion to the resources they consume, so i'm not surprised Voda havn't been quick to jump.

At least my 200-minutes-to-any-network have a limit, thus Vodafone can at least have some idea of what i'm likely to incur them in the way of costs in any billing period, vs the fixed income they receive from me.

I must be old fashioned? To believe in actually realising that my actions on the cellphone network do have a cost, and that I shouldn't ask for the earth?

(Now if Voda wanted to offer a fixed Qty of Texts to any network, for an amount of money that actually provides them with some margin for doing so, then good stuff. But anyone who expects unlimited texting to any network, is in need of a head-check.)


I agree with you there, totally.

I dont want unlimited texting (though would be nice), but a decent sized texting plan that was to ALL networks in NZ would be perfect.

At the end of the day, Vodafone and Telecom are businesses too. And they have to make money to exist.





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