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  Reply # 302938 28-Feb-2010 11:21
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freitasm:
harrylin: Why does china telecom has enough capacity to offer 160 million Chinese citizens unlimited broadband access for 70 dollars (15 nz dollars), but why tnz or tcl or voda doesnt have enough capacity to offer 4 million nz people unlimited broadband access?? Most of my mates in china download about 4 to 6 gig a day from their broadband, because everybody there does live tv streaming and movie streaming for the whole day.


Think about it... How much content Americans get from overseas? Not much. How much content Chinese get from overseas? Not much. How much content New Zealanders get from overseas? A lot.

It just costs more here. However telcos should be working with content providers to offer options. For example Google offers to colocate caches for their content services. In return they get free peering bandwidth (or did you think Google is good all the time?).
 
People talking about "unlimited" Internet should really examine all aspects of the problem, not only the "other countries off unlimited, we don't have it here".


Well I am not too concerned with unlimited internet though of course it would be nice.  I am just concerned at the prices of our current data.  Maybe we can't get it as cheap as our friends overseas but we aren't even anywhere close.    Considering vodafone are able to offer 3gigs for promotions etc I am sure they are creaming it with their current data plans.  The whole argument of us being isolated and our traffic coming mainly from the states I am sure does add extra cost but not to the extend of what we are being charged I think.  The same happened with adsl etc when prices used to be horrific.. Then the prices tumbled and now we have some decent plans around telecom offering a managed unlimited plan.  I am sure if that can be done then its possible via the cell networks also, doesnt have to be unlimited just more reasonable :)


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  Reply # 302948 28-Feb-2010 11:55
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I'm learning Japanese. And will go there one day. Nz telcos is hopeless. Everything is cheap there. And everything is so expensive in nz.

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Reply # 302957 28-Feb-2010 12:12
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harrylin: I'm learning Japanese. And will go there one day. Nz telcos is hopeless. Everything is cheap there. And everything is so expensive in nz.


Hahahaha you think everything is cheap in Japan I got news for you!

NZ Telcos are hopeless but NZ have 2 national 3G WCDMA networks and a 3rd getting built you have choice in the market place check out the latest deal from slingshot

The posts you are making on Geekzone have no thought to them sorry Harrylin you come out with the oddest things and only make yourself look silly

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  Reply # 302963 28-Feb-2010 12:46
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richms: No, there are 6 - dont forget that TC and slingshot are all too happy to sell you a plan, and I seem to recall some black and white company from a while ago.. they still going???




They're not real carriers but virtual network operators who piggyback on someone else so their data rates will always be high..




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  Reply # 302968 28-Feb-2010 13:18
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richms: No, there are 6 - dont forget that TC and slingshot are all too happy to sell you a plan, and I seem to recall some black and white company from a while ago.. they still going???




They're not real carriers but virtual network operators who piggyback on someone else so their data rates will always be high..


Why do you assume that? Their airtime rates are in many cases significantly less than Vodafone. My understanding is that the existing MNVO's receive the VF data bundles at a discount off the retail so there is no real reason why they aren't selling them at the same, similair or slightly cheaper price to what Vodafone sell them at.

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  Reply # 302975 28-Feb-2010 13:35
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Kilack:    Considering vodafone are able to offer 3gigs for promotions etc I am sure they are creaming it with their current data plans.  
I am getting the 3 gig plan and not even using the 250mb I am paying for.  So their free deal doesn't cost them anything, no biggy.  If they increase the cost of my plan to offer more data, I will be annoyed.

The only time I would have gone over my limit, but for the free 3Gig, was when I was away from home and tethered the laptop.  The option may already exist but in that rear situation, it would be good to be able to double up on the data for a cheap/reasonable price.

One other poster said they would prefer slower connection but higher limits - dont be stupid.  If you want to ready an article or view a web page, you want to read it  now! otherwise you will wait till you are on a BB connection.  Sure if all you are doing is emails, slow data wont be such a biggy but the new phones aren't just email, it is about finding the closest restaurant, or random info to cheat on the pub quiz.

From my dropbox app, I can open any document I have on my home computer.  If I know I will refer to it again, I favorite it and it saves it to the phone so I dont have to reuse data and it is allot quicker.


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  Reply # 302982 28-Feb-2010 15:00
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Lol. What I have said here is the voice from all nz mobile users. Big telcos always have some excuses. Anyway, people Know what they are talking about.

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  Reply # 302987 28-Feb-2010 15:12
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I can't get enough 3g signal to make a call in rangiora over vodafone network. So where is wcdma here? my iPhone Can't even make a call. Not to mention mobile data. Always gets dropped. Lol. It's a great 3g eh. It's a pity my iPhone can't connect to 2G. But I admit that its 2g network is more stable than telecom. Just make your price cheaper. And I love your Mifi.

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  Reply # 302993 28-Feb-2010 15:48
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harrylin: I can't get enough 3g signal to make a call in rangiora over vodafone network. So where is wcdma here? my iPhone Can't even make a call. Not to mention mobile data. Always gets dropped. Lol. It's a great 3g eh. It's a pity my iPhone can't connect to 2G. But I admit that its 2g network is more stable than telecom. Just make your price cheaper. And I love your Mifi.


Get a phone that suits the network or stop complaining about the lack of 3g in the whopwhops.

VF have a great rural 3g network, you just chose a stupid phone if you want to use it.




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  Reply # 302996 28-Feb-2010 16:04
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Yeah, the 900MHz Vodafone network seems available in most places in NZ. Has it been upgraded from 384/128k UMTS yet?




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  Reply # 302999 28-Feb-2010 16:26
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juha: Yeah, the 900MHz Vodafone network seems available in most places in NZ. Has it been upgraded from 384/128k UMTS yet?


900Mhz 3G network has had HSDPA capabilities right from the start. I believe all 3G sites are now 7.2 / HSUPA capable.

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  Reply # 303002 28-Feb-2010 16:48
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So are they HSDPA/HSUPA now?




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  Reply # 303003 28-Feb-2010 16:56

Speeds are network agnostic - not related to 900 versus 2100. Related to number of customers who use that site.

Mmmmmmm, 21Mbit/s goodness.

@harrylin, you have plenty of 3G Extend cover where you are. We've discussed this repeatedly. You need a different device.

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  Reply # 303089 28-Feb-2010 19:47
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When this 3GB data is gone on the smart plans is there any option of purchasing additional "blocks" of data or are we stuck paying $0.25/MB?

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