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  Reply # 304626 4-Mar-2010 23:15
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I'm watching! :)

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  Reply # 304649 5-Mar-2010 02:58
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MikeyPI:
dman: very true paradoxsm, but as I've said elsewhere on geekzone I expect one day a "tipping point" will arrive. Who knows exactly when, perhaps when 15% of your friends are on "another network" or maybe 35%? Whatever the number, when it happens we will see in a relatively short period of time a flood of people leaving VF as they all tumble over like dominos unless VF does something to stem it


Lol I think you overestimate the market power of low value prepaid customers. If they were concerned they would have done something by now. 
sure a lot of them may be young kids who don't spend much, but if they've stuck with one the entire time they were growing up they are significantly more likely to stay with that providor when they're older and a big spender. I started off with a telecom phone and used it for years, and so now which network did I spend thousands on last year? Telecom...  it is hardly a big coincidence.




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MikeyPI:
dman: very true paradoxsm, but as I've said elsewhere on geekzone I expect one day a "tipping point" will arrive. Who knows exactly when, perhaps when 15% of your friends are on "another network" or maybe 35%? Whatever the number, when it happens we will see in a relatively short period of time a flood of people leaving VF as they all tumble over like dominos unless VF does something to stem it


Lol I think you overestimate the market power of low value prepaid customers. If they were concerned they would have done something by now. 
sure a lot of them may be young kids who don't spend much, but if they've stuck with one the entire time they were growing up they are significantly more likely to stay with that providor when they're older and a big spender. I started off with a telecom phone and used it for years, and so now which network did I spend thousands on last year? Telecom...  it is hardly a big coincidence.


But they will still have the ethos of jumping ship the minute a better deal comes out, which is what VFNZ don't what. And "if" they become a big spender, 90% will look to getting the best deal they can, and if thats VFNZ, then they'll choose that. As they arent gonna to jump telcos while spending minimum, then when they actually have some market power with a higher ARPU, they arent going to just stick with the same old telco.

VFNZ bent overbackwards for my SME, just as they will for any user with a higher enough ARPU. 

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  Reply # 304736 5-Mar-2010 12:53
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Vodafone Family is such a great strategy.

Not only do they get $20 a month per family, but those members of that family are far far less likely to ever leave Vodafone.

Telecom don't offer a Family like service.

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  Reply # 304762 5-Mar-2010 13:53
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I think this reluctance to change provider is a NZ thing.   I remember that there was a big advertising push  to try and persuade people to change power companies as people seemed reluctant to, even though there were some good deals.

The barriers to changing mobile networks are not that large, with number portability, it really is making sure your phone is compatiable and changing the SIM.



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MikeyPI:
dman: very true paradoxsm, but as I've said elsewhere on geekzone I expect one day a "tipping point" will arrive. Who knows exactly when, perhaps when 15% of your friends are on "another network" or maybe 35%? Whatever the number, when it happens we will see in a relatively short period of time a flood of people leaving VF as they all tumble over like dominos unless VF does something to stem it


Lol I think you overestimate the market power of low value prepaid customers. If they were concerned they would have done something by now. 
sure a lot of them may be young kids who don't spend much, but if they've stuck with one the entire time they were growing up they are significantly more likely to stay with that providor when they're older and a big spender. I started off with a telecom phone and used it for years, and so now which network did I spend thousands on last year? Telecom...  it is hardly a big coincidence.

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  Reply # 304945 5-Mar-2010 23:24
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simon14: What's the matter then? Move to XT and get unlimited text for $13.

If your sticking with Vodafone, then they obviously have done something right.


Yeh by making a 2G network. Only reason I'm staying is because my mates have phones which only have UMTS 2100 and can't even use XT so they won't text me back since we all use txt2000. I'm sure many other people are this way too. Its more convenience than anything




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Reply # 305230 7-Mar-2010 16:29
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johnr: As advised watch this space


I sat across from John at lunch today, I did try to pry the info out of him, but alas he wouldn't divulge any info.

The only other idea I had was to threaten him with my steak knife, but I needed that to eat my very tasty steak at Mecca Viaduct.

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lol John....could you hint any louder? Wink

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