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  Reply # 315120 5-Apr-2010 21:22

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NonprayingMantis: voda would be very silly to drop data prices any sort of meaningful amount. All it will do is cause telecom to drop theirs the same amount, and so neither will gain any market share and all they will have done is shrunk their own ARPU and not gained any new customers.



Who says it's only to gain market share? 

Dropping prices grows revenue as it encourages growth of data services. While it might reduce revenue for some high use data users it encourages greater customer update of data and higher ARPU.


Exactly, this is why I believe there is a reason to lower calling rates too, the less you pay per minute does not always mean customers will spend less. 

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  Reply # 315136 5-Apr-2010 21:55
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Did anyone notice the out of bundle data charges have changed they are no longer 50 cents per meg?

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  Reply # 315142 5-Apr-2010 22:25
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DjShadow: Just hope they (VF) have enough backhaul to cope with the extra demand if the pricing looks good


No issue with IuB capacity

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  Reply # 315160 5-Apr-2010 23:46
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sbiddle:
NonprayingMantis: voda would be very silly to drop data prices any sort of meaningful amount. All it will do is cause telecom to drop theirs the same amount, and so neither will gain any market share and all they will have done is shrunk their own ARPU and not gained any new customers.



Who says it's only to gain market share? 

Dropping prices grows revenue as it encourages growth of data services. While it might reduce revenue for some high use data users it encourages greater customer update of data and higher ARPU.


This is a real possibility, but then if the market for mobile data is elastic enough to do that, then why wouldn't vodafone have done it last year? (same for calling rates)

Has anything fundamentally changed in the market since then that would cause mobile data to go from being inelastic to elastic? maybe the penetration of laptops has reached a particular point where enough people have the desire to buy a data stick and use it enough to justify the cost.

a preemptive response to 2Degrees (as the article mentions) is also a possibility,  but that also seems alittle rash.  Nobody actually knows exactly what 2D are going to do with data pricing.  it would seem more sensible to have your plans ready, and then the day 2D launches, you measure the correct response and go with that.


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  Reply # 315320 6-Apr-2010 13:51
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johnr: Did anyone notice the out of bundle data charges have changed they are no longer 50 cents per meg?

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Has the casual plans extra MB after the first 10MB always been a $1 or is that new too?




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  Reply # 315323 6-Apr-2010 13:59
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johnr: Did anyone notice the out of bundle data charges have changed they are no longer 50 cents per meg?

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Has the casual plans extra MB after the first 10MB always been a $1 or is that new too?


pricing around casual data has not changed in a while

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  Reply # 315407 6-Apr-2010 17:26
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johnr: Did anyone notice the out of bundle data charges have changed they are no longer 50 cents per meg?

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Yes, but alas still $100 per GB.

Obviously mobile 3G is more expensive than fixed line, but surely a price under $10 per GB should achievable?




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  Reply # 315422 6-Apr-2010 17:59

Just a note: Vodafone's quote was that we couldn't confirm the journo's question. We have plenty of plan for the new quarter but we haven't announced anything with regard to data at this point.

Just saying.

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  Reply # 315449 6-Apr-2010 18:40
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Aha! Paul, I have figured out  what you were doing in the 1980's. Working for the U.S. Nuclear arms "neither confirm or deny" program! Wink




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  Reply # 315513 6-Apr-2010 21:24
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Paul/John: do you reckon we'll ever see Mobile Broadband prices even remotely close to landline ADSL pricing? I realise probably not, but figured it couldn't hurt to ask :)

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  Reply # 315566 6-Apr-2010 23:04
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comon guys stop putting you head in other poeples a** and pull it out. and make it cheap. they can do better. they can do so good. it be cheaper to have mobile boradband running then LLU on every exchange. if they drag the cost down more poeple be willing to movie. and make it more faster too




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cws82us: comon guys stop putting you head in other poeples a** and pull it out. and make it cheap. they can do better. they can do so good. it be cheaper to have mobile boradband running then LLU on every exchange. if they drag the cost down more poeple be willing to movie. and make it more faster too


what the! So you want all adsl / fiber customers moving to mobile broad band and make it cheaper?



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  Reply # 315588 6-Apr-2010 23:53

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cws82us: comon guys stop putting you head in other poeples a** and pull it out. and make it cheap. they can do better. they can do so good. it be cheaper to have mobile boradband running then LLU on every exchange. if they drag the cost down more poeple be willing to movie. and make it more faster too


what the! So you want all adsl / fiber customers moving to mobile broad band and make it cheaper?


It can be done with 4G, but I do not understand why it cannot be done. As far as I can tell, the networks are slowly trying to up the usage of their networks without overloading them.

With examples of the XT network which provides really good throughput; we could do away with many fixed line connections. 

I see the demand for fixed line broadband/phone decreasing by at least 50% over the next 15-20 years.

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SteveON: I have used VF 3G with the Vodem Pro and about 3x different HSPA mobile phones. I actually tried it in Hamilton last month, poor result too =[


Were they dual band 3G mobiles i.e its important to have UMTS900  How did you check your data rates . . .  i.e best to use ftp server transfer while using something like netpersec.  Not all sites are set up to a max of 7.2 DL so data rates will vary depending on the cell your on and the time of day (i.e the number of HSDPA sessions up on the cell will effect your data rate).  I consistanly get good results on VF's UMTS900 network.  

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  Reply # 315596 7-Apr-2010 00:20
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its best if the file is hosted local 9 meg or over as HSPA ramps up over time

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