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  Reply # 322578 25-Apr-2010 09:57
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That's interesting. This is my situation.  Two sets of phone lines come into the house - existing pair which was Telecom's which the previous owner used and a new pair that TCL provisioned.

Both pairs are provisioned in the house since I have a second phone line.

I want Naked DSL since I don't want yet to switch my phones over to TNZ.

So what I would like is the following

1. Some ISP can get into the cabinet and connect up my TNZ copper to it.
2. I disconnect my second phone line and get the installer to connect the TZN copper coming to the house to the second pair that goes into the house (only exits at two points).
3. They provision the DSL on that pair and given I will probably ditch the second phone line, I don't need a filter anywhere.

I did call Orcon but as usual their CSR were not that clued up. They couldn't find my number (not surprising since it's TCL) and said even though there might be cabinets in the street, they could not provide me service directly since I presume they have no colo gear in the cabinet. So they would have to buy from TNZ wholesale.

The situation might also apply to other ISP's but I suppose I would have to call them individually. I did like Orcon's Purple plan which is $39.95 for 1G and then $80 more for 100GB. But I think they are rates when they are colocating and if wholesaling Telecom there's an additional charge.




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  Reply # 322640 25-Apr-2010 14:10
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Oldmanakbar: Just an update. I have been talking with someone at Telstra for the last couple of days. Sending traceroutes back and forth.

"There was a fix put in place yesterday afternoon by our Systems Designs team affecting international browsing issues. They implemented a fix to a broken internet network loop."



which part of the world your traceroutes were about?

and does anyone know where TCL gets the IP transit?

too bad this part of the worls does not have proper internet exchanges where large number of operators peer (like in LINX, AMSIX etc in europe).

for example i've noted some traces to australia going through sydney, then to singapore and back to sydney... that's just plain silly.

also parts of europe go through reach but then come back over level3. not an error really but just unoptimal.

(in past life i was an ip transit design and management engineer for a fairly large tier 2 operator; good times...)

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  Reply # 323577 27-Apr-2010 13:00
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Oldmanakbar: Hi guys,

My question for you guys is are you experiencing the same thing? It is bloody frustrating not being able to surf what I want, when I want. 90% of what I browse/download is offshore as it is for the majority of you reading this post.

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Have found that the performance of BBC iPlayer in particular has just got worse by the day over the past couple of weeks, was absolutely fine three weeks ago but is now completely unwatchable.

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  Reply # 323818 27-Apr-2010 18:46
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Yesterday I tried downloading an iTunes movie rental. It usually takes 30 minutes to download a movie, but it took about ten hours (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=44&topicid=60479).

Today I've heard a rumour that TelstraClear had a deal gone wrong with another provider... That could explain things.





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  Reply # 325195 30-Apr-2010 11:30
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freitasm: Yesterday I tried downloading an iTunes movie rental. It usually takes 30 minutes to download a movie, but it took about ten hours (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=44&topicid=60479).

Today I've heard a rumour that TelstraClear had a deal gone wrong with another provider... That could explain things.



and as usual they will of course keep their valuable customers informed.

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  Reply # 325782 2-May-2010 13:55

just moved house recently and the new house was set up for Telstra Cable and so we switched.  I have not experienced any improvement in speed over our own Telecom ADSL1 connection!  I thought we might have a badly installed connection - but seems not from this thread.

Interesting test, if you are on TelstraCable - go to speedtest.net and try the test with Wellington CityLink and then with either Napier or Christchurch.  CityLink gives me equivalent slowness to Los Angeles - Napier and Chch are more than 10x faster. So the two fastest cable networks in NZ might as well be on different sides of the world - go figure!

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  Reply # 325790 2-May-2010 14:17
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Interesting test, if you are on TelstraCable - go to speedtest.net and try the test with Wellington CityLink and then with either Napier or Christchurch. CityLink gives me equivalent slowness to Los Angeles - Napier and Chch are more than 10x faster. So the two fastest cable networks in NZ might as well be on different sides of the world - go figure!


Nothing new there, its been known for 5yrs or more. As Telstra dont Peer with WIX then traffic to CityLink traverses via LA.

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  Reply # 325794 2-May-2010 14:26
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OpenD: just moved house recently and the new house was set up for Telstra Cable and so we switched.  I have not experienced any improvement in speed over our own Telecom ADSL1 connection!  I thought we might have a badly installed connection - but seems not from this thread.

Interesting test, if you are on TelstraCable - go to speedtest.net and try the test with Wellington CityLink and then with either Napier or Christchurch.  CityLink gives me equivalent slowness to Los Angeles - Napier and Chch are more than 10x faster. So the two fastest cable networks in NZ might as well be on different sides of the world - go figure!


Cable is certainly faster than ADSL. If you are downloading from a fast server or content such as that hosted by Akamai you should be getting 10Mbps downstream at any time of the day. For all it's faults there are aspects of TCL's network that are very good. You should also get close to 10Mbps on the Auckland speedtest 24/7 but as pointed out Wellington will be slow because TCL don't peer.



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  Reply # 325795 2-May-2010 14:31
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Cable is certainly faster than ADSL


Yes and no, Telecom now claim that 70% of Wellington ADSL customers are experiencing sync speeds of at least 17MB/s, my speedtest results give me 15Mb/s TCP throughput anytime of the day.

I dont believe the HFC network has the advantage it once did, and at the massive $290 premium for the 25Mb/s connection I dont think its a valid comparison.

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  Reply # 325798 2-May-2010 15:14
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cyril7:
Cable is certainly faster than ADSL


Yes and no, Telecom now claim that 70% of Wellington ADSL customers are experiencing sync speeds of at least 17MB/s, my speedtest results give me 15Mb/s TCP throughput anytime of the day.

I dont believe the HFC network has the advantage it once did, and at the massive $290 premium for the 25Mb/s connection I dont think its a valid comparison.

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I meant ADSL as in ADSL1 that the poster was using, not ADSL2+ which now does have a significant advantage over cable.

It will be very interesting to see what happens with pricing once the DOCSIS3 network goes live soon, it's going to give TCL a massive increase in network capacity that they don't currently enjoy with DOCSIS2.

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  Reply # 325801 2-May-2010 15:45
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Heh, TelstraClear and "soon" in the same sentence.  If I didn't know better I'd have said you must be new around here.




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  Reply # 325823 2-May-2010 17:03
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sleemanj: Heh, TelstraClear and "soon" in the same sentence.  If I didn't know better I'd have said you must be new around here.


Absolutely.  I wouldn't ever recommend making a decision around what Telstra say they're 'going to do'. 

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  Reply # 325824 2-May-2010 17:12
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sleemanj: Heh, TelstraClear and "soon" in the same sentence.  If I didn't know better I'd have said you must be new around here.


I'd love to say more but in this case "soon" certainly means soon.

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  Reply # 325829 2-May-2010 18:21
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sbiddle:
I'd love to say more but in this case "soon" certainly means soon.


Wow, you should go public with the news of your ability to predict the future!

Even if internally, TelstraClear is planning on releasing it "soon", that doesn't mean anything. They thought they'd be releasing all sorts of things "soon" - and with such confidence that they were willing to tell the public about it. Multiple times. (And none of them came to pass). If it's so certainly, unprecedentedly "soon" then they would have no problem making that claim publically. It still wouldn't hold any weight given their track record, but would mean it's more likely than if they didn't want to announce anything.

Never mind of course, that "soon" could mean anything. To me, "soon" is 2 months max. To TelstraClear, it's somewhere between 2 years and never.

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  Reply # 325837 2-May-2010 18:58
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Just as long as they don't follow Telstra and deploy 100Mbps plans with traffic throttling to 64kbps once you go over cap..


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