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  Reply # 325030 29-Apr-2010 23:19

aimsy007: And to add that in Aus for $99 on a 24 month cap deal you can get unlimited national txt, mms, voice calls and video calls. You also gt 1.5gb of data.

I pay $59.95 for 200 txts, 60 anytime minutes & *100mb.

Talk about the poor second cousins. Poor because our pockets are being gouged.


That is a great deal... But remember it is not 1-1.. $100AU is about $128NZ.
Though for $130 I would pay to have unlimited everything... 

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  Reply # 325039 30-Apr-2010 00:08
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Paul you know exactly why that is - all these price decreases you refer to are exclusively on-net. Try lowering the price of something off-net and I'd bet the reaction wouldn't be so cynical.

Most of us have the same negativity towards 2 Degrees' on-net pricing reduction but at least off-net is less expensive than on other networks.

So yes if you bring out "Vodafone Surf" (3Gb of mobile data for $12 per month restricted to the Vodafone.co.nz domain) you will probably face more of this complaining you refer to.

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  Reply # 325116 30-Apr-2010 09:25
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I find 100mb heaps for what I use, yes I have a Nokia 5800 and all I really do is check email, read the Stuff mobile site now and again, and sometimes view the odd YouTube clip. I only used about 12mb out of the 100 last month.  Maybe Vodafone could offer something like 25mb for $2.50 a month, 50mb for $5 a month etc.  Most of the time too, I am using the phone through my home wifi network so then I use things like Ovi Store etc.

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  Reply # 325132 30-Apr-2010 09:48
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PaulBrislen: We'd offer more but when we lower the price of stuff we get told off.

I'm unsure quite why. Seems like a good thing to me.

I don't think anyone would complain if you lowered your off-net pricing.

Edit: Er, yes, what ahmad said.

Personally when I evaluate mobile pricing I ignore on-net.  It's of no use to me because I can't know what networks my friends/family will be on and I don't want to know.  2degrees is cheaper off-net, so who cares if they're making on-net concessions too?

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  Reply # 325177 30-Apr-2010 11:02
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ahmad: Wow I can't believe the number of "geeks" in this thread saying that 100Mb is a lot.

We should all be on Telecom's introduction to broadband legacy plan - 256/128 with 200Mb data on our home lines.


for mobile internet, 100MB is quite a lot.  Most mobile internet will be emails or browsing cut down web pages, which uses up verr little data.


for Mobile Broadband (i.e. tethering or using a USB modem) where you are downloading files, watching videos etc, it isn't very much. but it isn't aimed at that market anyway.

comparing a mobile internet plan with a fixed line plan is just silly.

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  Reply # 325199 30-Apr-2010 11:43
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It's only silly at the pricing being offered here. Mobile devices are increasingly made to be mobile computers rather than just for surfing mobile text sites. And the call is already out for us to ditch our landline.

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  Reply # 325232 30-Apr-2010 12:41
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in can understand being a little put off at the amount of data being offered..but still its somthing for nothing, cant knock it really




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  Reply # 325248 30-Apr-2010 13:38
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There is a wider issue here, and this is how I've approached the thread - 100Mb is pretty much the "standard" mobile internet plan in NZ. Which is sad. It's not just about whether something free is "enough".

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  Reply # 325264 30-Apr-2010 13:57
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ahmad: There is a wider issue here, and this is how I've approached the thread - 100Mb is pretty much the "standard" mobile internet plan in NZ. Which is sad. It's not just about whether something free is "enough".

Umm, actually no.  The "standard" mobile internet plan in NZ is "No internet plan".  The vast majority of mobile users either access the internet on a casual data plan or not at all.  It is a minority that use mobile internet on their handheld device.  The entire reason for this offer is to show "joe bloggs" that they can do things on their phone which can be useful...and if it is "useful enough" then they might choose to pay $10/mth for the 100Mb of data which will suit their infrequent usage profile.
Kind of like how 1Gb bundles and 256k upload speeds on DSL still work for a large proportion of the population.
There is no doubt there is a cross section of users who believe 100Mb is no where near enough but this is the minority of mobile users.

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  Reply # 325265 30-Apr-2010 13:58
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ahmad: There is a wider issue here, and this is how I've approached the thread - 100Mb is pretty much the "standard" mobile internet plan in NZ. Which is sad. It's not just about whether something free is "enough".


I agree.  Its enough for mobile internet, but not mobile broadband.  Mobile broadband is what we need to truly unleash the power of the smartphone devices beginning to appear.  I see many threads where people complain about the lack of recent-spec smartphones on carrier-subsidy.  The root issue are there are no plans that properly cater for such devices at this point in time anyway.

The life of a smartphone user in NZ presently is hopping from wireless hotspot to hotspot, and carrying a second mobile broadband sim sans the phone services.  You have to be quite hardcore to do this!

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  Reply # 325269 30-Apr-2010 14:08
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ahmad: There is a wider issue here, and this is how I've approached the thread - 100Mb is pretty much the "standard" mobile internet plan in NZ. Which is sad. It's not just about whether something free is "enough".

Umm, actually no.  The "standard" mobile internet plan in NZ is "No internet plan".  The vast majority of mobile users either access the internet on a casual data plan or not at all.  It is a minority that use mobile internet on their handheld device.  The entire reason for this offer is to show "joe bloggs" that they can do things on their phone which can be useful...and if it is "useful enough" then they might choose to pay $10/mth for the 100Mb of data which will suit their infrequent usage profile.
Kind of like how 1Gb bundles and 256k upload speeds on DSL still work for a large proportion of the population.
There is no doubt there is a cross section of users who believe 100Mb is no where near enough but this is the minority of mobile users.


The reason this is the standard is because of the pathetic hand-to-mouth approach adopted by the carriers to any type of new product or service.  Give people a sniff, get them hooked, then try to cream it with extortionate pricing.  Why do we lag behind the rest of the world?  Is it because we are less technologically savvy?  I think not.  More like we settle for half-baked service, and a piecemeal approach to the introduction of new products and are made to feel grateful for it.

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  Reply # 325272 30-Apr-2010 14:13
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Many of the responses in this thread wouldn't have surpised me if they were posted in Trademe forums. But this is supposed to be Geekzone, New Zealand's "technology community".

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  Reply # 325273 30-Apr-2010 14:15
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it's because you are confusing 'mobile internet' with 'mobile broadband'

they are two different things.

100MB on mobile internet is a prety good amount.


for mobile broadband though a sensible amount would be 1-3GB (IMO)

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  Reply # 325282 30-Apr-2010 14:40
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In that case just limit speeds to GPRS and forget 3G altogether.

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  Reply # 325293 30-Apr-2010 15:02
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its not that bad, i never use over 50 mb in a month on my iphone.

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