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PANiCnz
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  #342050 15-Jun-2010 18:52
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sbiddle: WxC have made it very clear in the past that they see no benefit for themselves in unbundling and that they would offer Telecom wholesale services.

With the move to UBA and UEUBA for VoIP + Internet there will be very little difference in the services available.


So to offer ADSL2+ you need to unbundle or wait for the move to UBA and UEUBA? Why can't Xnet just rebrand a Telecom ADSL2+ package without putting their own equipment in the cabinets/exchanges?

FYI I asked the same question about 6 days ago, good forum reading skills forgot10 Frown

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=65&topicid=62446

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  #342054 15-Jun-2010 19:03
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@PANiCnz I have the same question too. I assume the current HSI is using telecom's line, since telecom's line is ADSL2+ why xnet can't have it?

 
 
 
 


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  #342068 15-Jun-2010 19:46
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forgot10: @PANiCnz I have the same question too. I assume the current HSI is using telecom's line, since telecom's line is ADSL2+ why xnet can't have it?

They do have it. They do however restrict speeds to ADSL1 on there non-fusion plans. You are only on a 128up plan anyway, so won't make a differnce to you. Also, you must be some distance from exchange, as you are only connecting at approx 4Mbps, even though you are connecting with ADSL2+ modulation.




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  #342085 15-Jun-2010 20:34
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coffeebaron:
forgot10: @PANiCnz I have the same question too. I assume the current HSI is using telecom's line, since telecom's line is ADSL2+ why xnet can't have it?

They do have it. They do however restrict speeds to ADSL1 on there non-fusion plans. You are only on a 128up plan anyway, so won't make a differnce to you. Also, you must be some distance from exchange, as you are only connecting at approx 4Mbps, even though you are connecting with ADSL2+ modulation.

why not offer to HSI customers as well? I don't understand...

I know i'm not on a max up plan, but it doesn't mean that I cannot get a decent download speed because of a 128 up speed, does it?

I think the fact that my speedtest is around 2Mbps while my connection is 4Mbps reflects that there is some distance from the exchange. So I'm guessing it's kind of reduced in half. So I assume if I was on a better connection, say an ADSL2+ connection with 10Mbps, would I be able to get 5Mbps download?Cool If so, I might want to give VF red zone a try.

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  #342089 15-Jun-2010 20:42
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A 128 up speed will reduce your down speed to about 3-4Mbps. Your stats show you are already connecting on ADSL2+, so whether or not the HSI plan is restricted won't make a differnce to you. You would need a sync speed of greater than 8Mbps before this restriction kicks in.




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  #342090 15-Jun-2010 20:46
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Oh, and what exchange and area you connected to?




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  #342092 15-Jun-2010 20:53
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coffeebaron: A 128 up speed will reduce your down speed to about 3-4Mbps. Your stats show you are already connecting on ADSL2+, so whether or not the HSI plan is restricted won't make a differnce to you. You would need a sync speed of greater than 8Mbps before this restriction kicks in.


confused Embarassed  I have emailed xnet asking them to check my download limit. 

my result on http://www.telecomwholesale.co.nz/maps

 

 
 
 
 


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  #342215 16-Jun-2010 10:25
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So what's the point in paying for FS/FS with Xnet then? Surely the 128k up isn't going to limit me from maxing out an ADSL1 connection? Surely I only need full speed up to utilise a ADSL2 connection?

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Modem Line Rate

Xnet do not directly control the line rate that your modem connects at.

The line rate is determined by:

1: The quality of your line and house wiring (attenuation, noise, interference).
2: The configuration profile of the ADSL port in the exchange/cabinet.
3: The quirks/quality of your particular modem

You can request Xnet go and put a request in Telecom Wholesale's system to reset your profile to a standard adsl2+ port profile (if you think you are not on the standard profile) BUT looking at your screenshot it shows the line is connected at ADSL2+ already.

I suspect you a probably have line or house wiring issue here.

Limitations of Xnet HSI (non fusion plans) to 8Mbit

Xnet do rate limit their non fusion plans, but it's not done via the modem line rate.  I believe that is it done inside Xnet's network.

Suposedly they do this to better manage traffic on their network.  However, apparently it's a policy that is under review according to recent Xnet staff posts and may be done away with.

Limitations of 128kbit Upload

On Windows XP 128kbit upload will limit your max download speed to 3-4Mbit on TCP/IP connections (eg: loading web pages and standard http downloads).

When you recieve data from a server your computer sends a response saying basically "hey I receieved that send me more", with 128k you can saturate your available upload bandwidth with acknowledgements which means they are delayed and this limits your download speed as the server won't send your more data until it's recieved notice that you're ready.



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