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Topic # 6421 24-Jan-2006 21:19
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Page 7 shows that Vodafone NZ acquired:

68,000 new customers over the last quarter from 1.10.2005 to 31.12.2005

With a total customer base of 2,024,000. So does anyone know how many customers Telecom acquired?





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Reply # 27038 24-Jan-2006 21:26
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Fixed the /a tag (was round the wrong way), and it seems to have deleted further lines in your post. Unintentional, and I cant fix it sorry - Mauricio may be able to.

edit: They are back again.... (and so is the error on the closing tag)...

I will leave it alone, I must be jinxed tonight...




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Reply # 27040 24-Jan-2006 21:29
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Disenchanted: Fixed the /a tag (was round the wrong way), and it seems to have deleted further lines in your post. Unintentional, and I cant fix it sorry - Mauricio may be able to.

edit: They are back again.... (and so is the error on the closing tag)...

I will leave it alone, I must be jinxed tonight...


I fixed it myself, thanks anyway. :-)

So, what did Telecom get over the same period?

 
 
 
 




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Reply # 27048 25-Jan-2006 00:19
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Jaffa: I will bet my geekzone member ship they got 20,000 more than voda......

Anyone else want to play the guessing game :P



Quoted. Now how confident are you & will you stick to your word if your wrong? ;-)

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Reply # 27051 25-Jan-2006 00:56
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He probably works for them and thus may have access to the statistics before they are released to the public. It sometimes seems most people here either work for Voda or Telecom, with the people who don't in the minority.




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Reply # 27053 25-Jan-2006 01:00

Im **guessing** tcom will get 30,000+ more connections than voda. I could be wrong though.

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Reply # 27061 25-Jan-2006 07:53
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cokemaster: He probably works for them and thus may have access to the statistics before they are released to the public. It sometimes seems most people here either work for Voda or Telecom, with the people who don't in the minority.
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Reply # 27069 25-Jan-2006 08:49
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Voda must be gutted - Christmas is supposed to be the busiest time. What shocking figures! Oh well I guess 3G just hasn't cut it for them.

No wonder they are laying off 20 managers. I guess they are 'non performing' managers.


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Reply # 27071 25-Jan-2006 09:01
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Telecom's growth figures will be interesting. At a time where we have reached near saturation in the NZ market some of the growth is now coming from large numbers of people who have 2 phones. Knowing the churn figures would also be very interesting but it's something we're obviously not going to know..

It was interesting the other day to look at a few of the new Vodafone offerings in Europe. Vodafone are very much into contracts again however rather than NZ who forces you to sign up for 24 months there are options for term & non term contracts. In the UK for example you can eithe take out a plan with no contract, pay the same price with an 18 month contract however they are throwing in extras such as stop the clock (the UK pay for 3 mins talk for an hour). I actually hope Vodafone get their [****] bums kicked again, the sooner Vodafone realise their current plans are actually hurting them and not helping them then the sooner we'll get some decent deals..

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Reply # 27073 25-Jan-2006 09:21
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Jama did you read the NBR review and get that information

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Reply # 27075 25-Jan-2006 09:23
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Johnr it was a 'tongue in check' wind up. Of course the 2M milestone is a great achievement.

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Reply # 27078 25-Jan-2006 09:29
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Ok fair enough. Happy new year by the way

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Reply # 27079 25-Jan-2006 09:33
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Yeah you to and a happy new year to all at Geekzone.

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Reply # 27080 25-Jan-2006 09:37
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Jama: Voda must be gutted - Christmas is supposed to be the busiest time. What shocking figures! Oh well I guess 3G just hasn't cut it for them.

No wonder they are laying off 20 managers. I guess they are 'non performing' managers.



You'll find that most retailers had a poor sales month compared to previous years in December. Last year Xmas rush just never occured, people seem to be spreading their shopping throughout the year now.

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Reply # 27083 25-Jan-2006 09:48
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I think that was the general consensus by most retailers (this is what I got from family member who is manager for large retail store). He did say that his observation of prepaid sales (they dont do contracts) Voda did better than Telecom this year but compared to previous years, mobile sales overall this Xmas was way down. I guess there has to be some point where enough is enough.

I wonder if handset sales for Voda are measured differently to actual new connections?

My thoughts: If a Telecom cust wants to upgrade their prepaid phone then they buy a NEW prepaid phone with a NEW number and then they transfer their OLD number to this new handset. Does this count as a NEW connection?

In the other camp if a Voda customer buys a NEW handset then they dont actually buy a NEW connection as they use their existing sim card.

So - are these figures bandied about actually NEW connections or NEW handsets. In terms of acquiring NEW customers surely this makes a difference.

Does this make sense?




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Reply # 27089 25-Jan-2006 10:58
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Jaffa: I haven’t even seen a voda add for 2-3 weeks.


Have you actually seen a Telecom ad on TV either? The Xmas/New Year/ealy Jan is a very quiet time for TV advertising due to a very low number of viewers.

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