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  # 384263 25-Sep-2010 11:38
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freitasm: There's no throttling your connection, they don't block ports, you get what are sold.

Hmm... I'm not 100% on that. I've been a cable customer 7 years now and noticed in the last 6 months that a torrent will start off all good (500+ kb/s) and drop to 3k/dial-up speeds in about 2 minutes. Restart the software and it's all good for 2 minutes, change random ports and it's all good for 2 minutes. I've tried utorrent, vuze, transmission etc... all on 3 different PCs and 2 different routers.
I don't have any hassles with XDCC tho :D

btw, 90% of these torrents have been linux distros... not saying all are, but most

edit: actually tried deluge about an hour ago and the same thing.


Are you cable or DSL? I have been on cable all this time, and never had this kind of problem. I consistently could get 1.5MB/s up to 2MB/s even on 10Mbps service.





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  # 384264 25-Sep-2010 11:41
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Cable, and had the same IP for the last 5 years.
It's really weird that it has just been in the last 6 months.
I moved house 3 weeks ago and it's the same here (not that my IP changed).
All good tho, for distros I use http and anything else, xdcc!

 
 
 
 


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  # 384342 25-Sep-2010 15:26
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mattbush: Since you are reporting about the trial, I am sure TCL will be making sure you have some success with the trial.


Which maybe the case... However I have been a TelstraClear broadband customer for over 10 years and I have always had good service (no talking customer services). There's no throttling your connection, they don't block ports, you get what are sold.


I have been a customer myself for sometime and have seen some shocking episodes on TCL. Maybe you just forget. I believe we went several months with the ARP issue and there was something else (cant quite recall) a few months back. On both these episodes it took TCL a very very long time to even admit a problem.

I do believe that we are fortunate to be able to connect to cable, unlike MOST of New Zealand. So for MOST of NZ the Govt's planned rollout probably cannot come soon enough.



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  # 384345 25-Sep-2010 15:30
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freitasm:
mattbush: Since you are reporting about the trial, I am sure TCL will be making sure you have some success with the trial.


Which maybe the case... However I have been a TelstraClear broadband customer for over 10 years and I have always had good service (no talking customer services). There's no throttling your connection, they don't block ports, you get what are sold.


I have been a customer myself for sometime and have seen some shocking episodes on TCL. Maybe you just forget. I believe we went several months with the ARP issue and there was something else (cant quite recall) a few months back. On both these episodes it took TCL a very very long time to even admit a problem.

I do believe that we are fortunate to be able to connect to cable, unlike MOST of New Zealand. So for MOST of NZ the Govt's planned rollout probably cannot come soon enough.


No, I don't forget. I know well about the ARP issue, I just never thought it affected me. I did battle for months for a local Google/YouTube cache, if you recall my blog posts and forum discussions on the topic.

Other than that, no I didn't find problems - connections always worked ok, the occasional transparent proxy hiccup, but nothing that wouldn't seem to fix itself in a few minutes.





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  # 384673 26-Sep-2010 21:07
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Check out this just released in Canada. It gives an indication of pricing for this type of service, they have pushed their DOCSIS 3.0 service to 120Mbps. I wonder if Telstra will even come close to this pricing.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/09/24/videotron.intros.120mbps.internet.to.quebec/

Canadian telecommunications provider Videotron has just introduced the country's fastest Internet service with its Ultimate Speed Internet 120. The plan uses DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem tech to reach 120Mbps download speeds and 20Mbps upload speeds, in many cases beating current fiber. Caps are relatively low for the performance with monthly usage at 170GB for downloads and 30GB for uploads. Going outside of those bounds will cost users $1.50CAD ($1.46) for each extra gigabyte used.

The package will initially be offered in Quebec City, though it's said to arrive in other markets at an undisclosed, later time. Ultimate Speed Internet 120 costs $160CAD ($155) per month and includes a cable modem and a one-month subscription to Videotron's security services. If users already subscribe to Videotron's phone or TV services, the price drops to $150CAD ($146) per month



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  # 384675 26-Sep-2010 21:10
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Charging for uploads is strange. I would not use that kind of service, seeing one of the big things I use our connection for is online backups and work from home...




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  # 384681 26-Sep-2010 21:28
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langi27: Check out this just released in Canada. It gives an indication of pricing for this type of service, they have pushed their DOCSIS 3.0 service to 120Mbps. I wonder if Telstra will even come close to this pricing.



I assume you mean TelstraClear - if you wanted an example closer to home check out Telstra's 100Mbps plans in Aussie that launched in late 2009.

It's just a shame that Telstra have crippled their DOCSIS3 network with 2Mbps upstream and traffic shaping to 64kbps once you exceed your cap!


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  # 384697 26-Sep-2010 22:54
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freitasm: Charging for uploads is strange. I would not use that kind of service, seeing one of the big things I use our connection for is online backups and work from home...


Why is it strange? TC charges for uploads or downloads, and uploads are probably more expensive for them.

I'd like to be able to use online backup services, but my data requirements would be in the region of 20GB/week, so the storage cost would have to drop and transmission speed would have to hugely increase to make it possible.



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  # 384700 26-Sep-2010 23:13
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freitasm: Charging for uploads is strange. I would not use that kind of service, seeing one of the big things I use our connection for is online backups and work from home...


Why is it strange? TC charges for uploads or downloads, and uploads are probably more expensive for them.

I'd like to be able to use online backup services, but my data requirements would be in the region of 20GB/week, so the storage cost would have to drop and transmission speed would have to hugely increase to make it possible.


Sorry, I meant to say 'having separate caps for download and uploads is strange' in the case of this Canadian ISP.

I know TCL meters both.




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  # 384710 27-Sep-2010 00:54
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Common place in Australia for ISP's to not count upload data in their data caps, has been like that for years.

Most ISP's that are not large web hosts have a huge surplus of unused upload capacity.



 

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  # 384730 27-Sep-2010 08:32
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Ragnor: Common place in Australia for ISP's to not count upload data in their data caps, has been like that for years.

Most ISP's that are not large web hosts have a huge surplus of unused upload capacity.



 


If uploads were "free" surely that would just encourage torrent seeding.  How do they get around that in Australia?




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  # 384999 27-Sep-2010 16:03
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Ragnor: Common place in Australia for ISP's to not count upload data in their data caps, has been like that for years.

Most ISP's that are not large web hosts have a huge surplus of unused upload capacity.



If uploads were "free" surely that would just encourage torrent seeding.  How do they get around that in Australia?



There's nothing to get around, ISP's typically buy domestic and international transit at symmetrical rates ie: same upload/download speed.  Most services and users consume much more download bandwidth than upload, consider ADSL where you might have a 10Mbit download and 1Mbit upload etc.

There are plenty of legitimate services that consume upload data eg: voip, online backup etc

Even if you were seeding torrents (Linux iso's for example, wow patches etc) why should the ISP care what you are using your connection for - they are in the business of selling you bandwidth.



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  # 385103 27-Sep-2010 18:46
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freitasm: Charging for uploads is strange. I would not use that kind of service, seeing one of the big things I use our connection for is online backups and work from home...


I have always wondered if this is done in NZ or not?


Charging for uploads (or counting)?

In New Zealand most ISP (or all of them) meter both download and uploads. There are no ISP that I know that limits (caps) downloads separately from uploads.

In Australia it's common ISPs meter download and zero rate uploads.





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  # 385104 27-Sep-2010 18:49
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If uploads were unrated i'd use an online backup system for sure, but it'd be more useful if I could do more than 2Mbps for a reasonable price.

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