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  Reply # 539335 30-Oct-2011 19:36
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b0untypure1: fantastic working 


Thanks.  I confess, I'm a cable customer, so these prices don't apply to me, so I'm having a bit of a look about and keeping an eye on what value I can get.






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  Reply # 539360 30-Oct-2011 21:12
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Bee: We dont use 40GB per month - we use maybe 15 max... we do do toll calls. So what would be really good would be something like 20GB + phone + unlimited 1 hour toll calls for less than $80 a month...

but it seems like finding any plans with less than 40GB will be near on impossible soon... Which is how the ISPs make money as Ive stated before - sell 40GB packages to 50 people who only use 20 - 30GB each. The rest is therefore profit...



this plan would be aimed at someone like myself, who has a large steam games list and watches youtube and games online for a living. 40gb is not enough, i use roughly 200gb a month.
im on telecom 10gb total home and its fantastic, just thought id let others know about this deal.
telstra is also looking at buying a steam cache, which allows steam users to download steam games fast, and without bandwidth usage.

for someone like yourself, 20gb would be more than enough so i wouldnt recommend this plan :)

lastly, i say the profit they make from people not using their entire allowance, is soaked up by people like myself who go over their allowance 20 times. 




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  Reply # 539375 30-Oct-2011 22:08
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Does anyone like beer?



ps:  The images are hyperlinked, so if you find them hard to read in this size just click on them! :)

Sorry, still no Vodafone and I also didn't update the numbers as suggested... but I think anyone who really gives a toss can read the thread and pick up the value points that people have made.  I totally agree that someone who wants to call the whole of NZ, one of those packages does represent value.

I'm only providing these graphs as a bit of a comparison in the hope that people will look at their individual needs and do some thinking.

Don't know about you, but $703.80 is a  fair amount of gold to me!  But you also need to remember that figure is only if you actually use all 40 gb.






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  Reply # 539376 30-Oct-2011 22:13
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NonprayingMantis: not really apples with apples since you are comparing a special signing up offer from Telstra with the 'standard' pricing from the other providers.


Dude... seriously... that really is the whole point... If you're just sitting on a current 'standard pricing plan' from one of these other providers then you need to get busy and do some thinking :)

The other point I'd like to make is that the comparison, per this post was for:

* 40GB
* 1 voice service
* Total service cost for 12 months

If you can see a better deal for those terms from any of those providers then please point them out as I'm sure people will be very keen to know, but it really did take me long enough just to compare these numbers.

I'll look at adding Vodafone tomorrow unless someone wants to download the xls, do it and put the updated charts on line.






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  Reply # 539386 30-Oct-2011 22:37
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b0untypure1:
Bee: We dont use 40GB per month - we use maybe 15 max... we do do toll calls. So what would be really good would be something like 20GB + phone + unlimited 1 hour toll calls for less than $80 a month...

but it seems like finding any plans with less than 40GB will be near on impossible soon... Which is how the ISPs make money as Ive stated before - sell 40GB packages to 50 people who only use 20 - 30GB each. The rest is therefore profit...



this plan would be aimed at someone like myself, who has a large steam games list and watches youtube and games online for a living. 40gb is not enough, i use roughly 200gb a month.
im on telecom 10gb total home and its fantastic, just thought id let others know about this deal.
telstra is also looking at buying a steam cache, which allows steam users to download steam games fast, and without bandwidth usage.

for someone like yourself, 20gb would be more than enough so i wouldnt recommend this plan :)

lastly, i say the profit they make from people not using their entire allowance, is soaked up by people like myself who go over their allowance 20 times. 


Steam server is pretty much fully loaded and getting reaped http://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/

To compare it you can use Orcons server on that list and see the stats on this page http://games.orcon.net.nz/index.php?page=steam

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  Reply # 539453 31-Oct-2011 10:29
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DonGould:
NonprayingMantis: not really apples with apples since you are comparing a special signing up offer from Telstra with the 'standard' pricing from the other providers.


Dude... seriously... that really is the whole point... If you're just sitting on a current 'standard pricing plan' from one of these other providers then you need to get busy and do some thinking :) 



My point was more that if one of the other providers has a better acquisition offer then you haven't included it in your analysis.  If you were thinking about moving providers then of course telstra are going to look the best because you showed their promotional pricing in comparison to everyone elese' standard pricing.

Telstra haven't gone on TV with this promo, the only reason it has appeared here is because somebody found the URL and posted it - we don't even know if there are some eligability rules that apply to certain people.  Any other provider could easily have a similar or better promo on but it just hasn't made it here yet.

for example, Orcon have this website:

http://www.orcon.net.nz/partners

if you are in the Orcon+ network you can get 40GB for $71 - and that is a permanent price that doesn't expire after 12 months unlike the telstra one where your price is jacked up by $30 once the 12 months 'free 40GB' has eneded. (and this isn't genius, this is normal PSTN)

Other providers have their offers only available for door to door sign ups or with some sort of code you quote to a telephone rep or something, so no way to proove it but they could also just as easily be much better too.

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  Reply # 539458 31-Oct-2011 10:38
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DonGould: 

Does anyone like beer? 


Sorry, still no Vodafone and I also didn't update the numbers as suggested... but I think anyone who really gives a toss can read the thread and pick up the value points that people have made.  I totally agree that someone who wants to call the whole of NZ, one of those packages does represent value.

I'm only providing these graphs as a bit of a comparison in the hope that people will look at their individual needs and do some thinking.

Don't know about you, but $703.80 is a  fair amount of gold to me!  But you also need to remember that figure is only if you actually use all 40 gb.




So you created new graphs but didn’t bother updating the numbers to include the very valid points people have made.  
You acknowledge that your comparison is now misleading but you continue with it, and expand upon it, anyway. Why?

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Reply # 539463 31-Oct-2011 10:43
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Just rang up and inquired about getting this.

They asked for my address and said as their equipment is not in my exchange they can not offer this deal to me. Cry



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  Reply # 539534 31-Oct-2011 12:40
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NonprayingMantis:
DonGould: 

Does anyone like beer? 


Sorry, still no Vodafone and I also didn't update the numbers as suggested... but I think anyone who really gives a toss can read the thread and pick up the value points that people have made.  I totally agree that someone who wants to call the whole of NZ, one of those packages does represent value.

I'm only providing these graphs as a bit of a comparison in the hope that people will look at their individual needs and do some thinking.

Don't know about you, but $703.80 is a  fair amount of gold to me!  But you also need to remember that figure is only if you actually use all 40 gb.




So you created new graphs but didn’t bother updating the numbers to include the very valid points people have made.  
You acknowledge that your comparison is now misleading but you continue with it, and expand upon it, anyway. Why?


new graph please praying mantis.




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  Reply # 539712 31-Oct-2011 20:49
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NonprayingMantis:
So you created new graphs but didn’t bother updating the numbers to include the very valid points people have made.  
You acknowledge that your comparison is now misleading but you continue with it, and expand upon it, anyway. Why?


Graphs are kinda fun to make and quick.  I didn't feel inclined this morning to hunt around for the numbers but wondered what the savings charts would look like.

The charts are based on a dynamic spreadsheet.   So, as soon as I put the numbers in, I'll have new graphs...  as I've just worked a long day and still have some prep work for tomorrow to do, I doubt that I'll update them tonight either.

As for misleading... pffft...  the implication of the pictures is that there's money to be saved depending on which provider you're with.  You guys have jumped in with a bunch of comments about options to consider from free calling areas to other provider specials.  The thread is not miss-leading at all and any issues with my graphs have been more than high lighted by you and others, so I'd say as presentations go, it's fairly balanced and should give people a good heads up that they should be checking their options if they're with one of the highlighted providers.






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  Reply # 539738 31-Oct-2011 22:00
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I rang and I also can't get the deal.....wrong exchange supposedly......someone must be able to get it. 

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  Reply # 539741 31-Oct-2011 22:10
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NonprayingMantis:  Any other provider could easily have a similar or better promo on but it just hasn't made it here yet.


Ya, that was also my point...  I invited people to drop those promos on the thread and update the xls and post their own graphs.  That's why I put the XLS on the web site so ppl would do their own home work and not just take my work for it...


NonprayingMantis:  for example, Orcon have this website:

http://www.orcon.net.nz/partners

if you are in the Orcon+ network you can get 40GB for $71 - and that is a permanent price that doesn't expire after 12 months unlike the telstra one where your price is jacked up by $30 once the 12 months 'free 40GB' has eneded. (and this isn't genius, this is normal PSTN)


Cool... so download the spreadsheet and get posting :)






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  Reply # 539766 1-Nov-2011 01:04
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DonGould:
NonprayingMantis:  Any other provider could easily have a similar or better promo on but it just hasn't made it here yet.


Ya, that was also my point...  I invited people to drop those promos on the thread and update the xls and post their own graphs.  That's why I put the XLS on the web site so ppl would do their own home work and not just take my work for it...


you invited people to comment and said you would update the graphs

look here:

" just shout out if you think I've picked unfair numbers to compare and I'll square up the graphs. "
and
"Ta, I will adjust the graphs a bit later"

so you didn't actually mean it?

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  Reply # 539767 1-Nov-2011 01:06
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b0untypure1:
NonprayingMantis:
DonGould: 

Does anyone like beer? 


Sorry, still no Vodafone and I also didn't update the numbers as suggested... but I think anyone who really gives a toss can read the thread and pick up the value points that people have made.  I totally agree that someone who wants to call the whole of NZ, one of those packages does represent value.

I'm only providing these graphs as a bit of a comparison in the hope that people will look at their individual needs and do some thinking.

Don't know about you, but $703.80 is a  fair amount of gold to me!  But you also need to remember that figure is only if you actually use all 40 gb.




So you created new graphs but didn’t bother updating the numbers to include the very valid points people have made.  
You acknowledge that your comparison is now misleading but you continue with it, and expand upon it, anyway. Why?


new graph please praying mantis.

don was the guy who wanted to update the graphs with any corrections.  I'll let him do it.




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  Reply # 539768 1-Nov-2011 01:33
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NonprayingMantis:
DonGould:
NonprayingMantis:  Any other provider could easily have a similar or better promo on but it just hasn't made it here yet.


Ya, that was also my point...  I invited people to drop those promos on the thread and update the xls and post their own graphs.  That's why I put the XLS on the web site so ppl would do their own home work and not just take my work for it...


you invited people to comment and said you would update the graphs

look here:

" just shout out if you think I've picked unfair numbers to compare and I'll square up the graphs. "
and
"Ta, I will adjust the graphs a bit later"

so you didn't actually mean it?


you mad?  ;) 




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