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  #1905164 21-Nov-2017 11:44
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Heh, I'll be in Christchurch! That's not likely to do much for my nerves. 

 

 


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  #1905167 21-Nov-2017 11:47
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networkn:

 

Heh, I'll be in Christchurch! That's not likely to do much for my nerves. 

 

 

Wait to see what others do, if they aren't aware of the test...





 
 
 
 


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  #1905169 21-Nov-2017 11:49
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freitasm:

 

networkn:

 

Heh, I'll be in Christchurch! That's not likely to do much for my nerves. 

 

 

Wait to see what others do, if they aren't aware of the test...

 

 

 

 

Maybe I'll go into the Square and video peoples reactions :) 

 

I imagine they might not even notice they are so hardened to natural disasters! Tough people!

 

 


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  #1905200 21-Nov-2017 12:17
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Presumably the test has the word "TEST" on the message(s).

 

On a side note, I have a Samsung galaxy Note 2 - so obviously not officially supported/able to get these messages.

 

The last official OS update was kitkat 4.4

 

But I recently flashed it with LineageOS - so it now has android 7.1.2 installed and I see there are all sorts of Emergency warning message settings/types under settings.

 

I will be really interested to see if this phone can receive the messages.





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I am OK with the system in principle.

 

I'm a bit less happy about them overriding what hardware I own does, and not giving me the option as to whether I want alerts enabled on my phone or not. There is a general principle that I ought to be able to control what IT equipment that I own does, and it irks me a bit when someone thinks they ought to have that right instead.

 

If I had the option I would probably leave it enabled. But there are circumstances (eg like when I was on shift work, but had a terminally ill relative) where I might want the ability to leave my phone on but disable alerts - particularly if I needed to sleep and knew there was a scheduled test coming.

 

On balance, they should have done what they did in the US - enable it as the default, and then let people disable it if they want. Even better, with some granularity if possible - eg disable test message receipt but leave real ones enabled etc.

 

And yes, I know what they are trying to achieve and why it's a good idea. I just wish they weren't quite as high-handed about it.

 

Presumably if someone really wanted rid of the alerts they could just flash the stock international firmware onto their phone in place of the local carrier's version - which would restore their control over their own hardware?


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  #1905225 21-Nov-2017 12:33
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I just don't get not wanting emergency warnings. Seems like they are even more in need to protect you. From yourself! :) 

 

 


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  #1905232 21-Nov-2017 12:43
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Then the inevitable people who have gone out of their way to disable it will be the ones that complain about not getting an alert in an actual emergency


 
 
 
 


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Slight OT, anyone been on the site linked by Mauricos' post? https://www.civildefence.govt.nz/get-ready/civil-defence-emergency-management-alerts-and-warnings/emergency-mobile-alert/

 

 

 

Doesn't format for me, main page has scheduled maintenance (12:44 on the Tuesday seems a weird time).

 

https://www.civildefence.govt.nz/

 

 





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  #1905234 21-Nov-2017 12:47
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networkn:

 

I just don't get not wanting emergency warnings. Seems like they are even more in need to protect you. From yourself! :) 

 

 

 

 

but if you read his comment closely, he did say a far more reasoned approach than just 'switch them off'

 

 

 

JimmyH:

 

I am OK with the system in principle.

 

 

 

If I had the option I would probably leave it enabled. But there are circumstances (eg like when I was on shift work, but had a terminally ill relative) where I might want the ability to leave my phone on but disable alerts - particularly if I needed to sleep and knew there was a scheduled test coming.

 

On balance, they should have done what they did in the US - enable it as the default, and then let people disable it if they want. Even better, with some granularity if possible - eg disable test message receipt but leave real ones enabled etc.

 

And yes, I know what they are trying to achieve and why it's a good idea.

 


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  #1905238 21-Nov-2017 12:58
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networkn:

 

 

 

Maybe I'll go into the Square and video peoples reactions :) 

 

I imagine they might not even notice they are so hardened to natural disasters! Tough people!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Try running around a bit screaming 'OMG! We're all gonna die!'.





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  #1905336 21-Nov-2017 15:45
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networkn:


I just don't get not wanting emergency warnings. Seems like they are even more in need to protect you. From yourself! :) 



 


but if you read his comment closely, he did say a far more reasoned approach than just 'switch them off'


 


JimmyH:


I am OK with the system in principle.


 


If I had the option I would probably leave it enabled. But there are circumstances (eg like when I was on shift work, but had a terminally ill relative) where I might want the ability to leave my phone on but disable alerts - particularly if I needed to sleep and knew there was a scheduled test coming.


On balance, they should have done what they did in the US - enable it as the default, and then let people disable it if they want. Even better, with some granularity if possible - eg disable test message receipt but leave real ones enabled etc.


And yes, I know what they are trying to achieve and why it's a good idea.




I don’t think these systems have a test mode. It’s either a warning or it’s not. So the only way to test the production system is to send a warning out.

Say the system did have a test mode though and they sent a test, and it worked, then great.
But what if the real notifications had a particular bug that’d have been picked up but wasn’t because the test was sent as a test notification type instead. Tests are sent for a reason, same reason we have fire alarm tests and drills. Call centres still have these despite how annoying it could be for callers. They’re there for a reason.


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  #1905357 21-Nov-2017 16:37
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I see all the negative points, thats fair enough. Me, I dont care. I dont expect to be experiencing natural disasters every 2 years., I am more than happy to put up with any minor inconveniences that one day just might make a difference to me, my family, friends, and people I dont know and never will. A very small price to pay IMHO


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  #1905363 21-Nov-2017 16:55
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SaltyNZ:

 

networkn:

 

 

 

Maybe I'll go into the Square and video peoples reactions :) 

 

I imagine they might not even notice they are so hardened to natural disasters! Tough people!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Try running around a bit screaming 'OMG! We're all gonna die!'.

 

 

I'm worried the wizard might punch me right in the face :) 

 

 


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  #1905364 21-Nov-2017 16:58
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networkn:

SaltyNZ:


networkn:


 


Maybe I'll go into the Square and video peoples reactions :) 


I imagine they might not even notice they are so hardened to natural disasters! Tough people!


 



 


Try running around a bit screaming 'OMG! We're all gonna die!'.



I'm worried the wizard might punch me right in the face :) 


 

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MCDEM have updated the webpage and gives the cell broadcast channel as 4370.

 

I checked two dumbphones in the family and they both have a cell broadcast option, however they can only allow you to specify a 3 digit channel number. So I've set both to accept all cell broadcast messages. Let's see what happens on Sunday.


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