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  #2371379 9-Dec-2019 19:55
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Seven Sharp footage available here. The first third is the usual 5G marketing BS, the rest is an actual expert in the field commenting on it. Pretty good coverage really.

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  #2371380 9-Dec-2019 19:56
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Oblivian: Watch the tvnz hate after tonight. Seven sharp doing a focus on those against, and what's behind it.

 

 

Watched it because I was ironing some shirts... "Focus" is being nice.





 

 

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  #2371381 9-Dec-2019 19:59
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freitasm:

 

Oblivian: Watch the tvnz hate after tonight. Seven sharp doing a focus on those against, and what's behind it.

 

 

Watched it because I was ironing some shirts... "Focus" is being nice.

 

 

Ahh yes. They talked it up in the promo that alerted me to it. And let me down in the delivery.


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  #2371382 9-Dec-2019 20:03
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Journeyman:

Oh! I'd forgotten about Orgonite! One of the biggest loads of BS when it comes to magical healing substances, Orgonite is just resin with added metal shavings and quartz! 😁

 

 

So the linked page says:

 

 

My name is Karin, and I've been making orgonite since 2012. I make healing orgonite pyramids, pendants and more in my home country Zambia, and ship them worldwide

 

 

Seems a bit fishy to me, shouldn't it be:

 

 

My name is Ndidi, sister of a deposed Nigerian prince, and I've been making orgonite since 2012. I make healing orgonite pyramids, pendants and more in my home country Nigeria, and ship them worldwide

 

 


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  #2371383 9-Dec-2019 20:05
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Oblivian:

Ahh yes. They talked it up in the promo that alerted me to it. And let me down in the delivery.

 

 

Did they? They basically pointed out that all the conspiracy stuff is silly, and even the presenters weren't taking it seriously. Not much of a story, but then what were you expecting?

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  #2377769 18-Dec-2019 13:27
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Just noticed that the Global Disinformation Index uses the anti-5G campaign as a case study. Starts on page 13.

 

 

The GDI also have some other interesting reports for people interested in this sort of thing.

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got to love this pic from the protests today around the country . this image was taken in chch

 

 

 

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  #2406843 25-Jan-2020 20:55
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Saw some anti 5G meeting crap stuck on a billboard in Birkenhead. I was tempted to pull them down and just throw them in the bin. They won't stop anything.


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  #2406891 25-Jan-2020 21:59
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I saw someone in one of our local Facebook groups try to drum up support for the anti-5G event in Wellington, plenty of offers of Tinfoil I must say. But the comment I saw which summed up the lack of education was "5G is mmWave", no research it seems into how both Vodafone and Spark are rolling it out


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  #2407233 26-Jan-2020 22:07
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Last night after seeing a bunch of comments on my Facebook feed I decided to test their knowledge a bit:

https://murfy.nz/2020/01/26/the-disinformation-around-5g/




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  #2407234 26-Jan-2020 22:12
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I just use the laugh react and post tinfoil hat gifs. THey dont understand what they are on about and ridicule is the best answer.





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  #2407255 26-Jan-2020 22:58
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michaelmurfy: Last night after seeing a bunch of comments on my Facebook feed I decided to test their knowledge a bit:

https://murfy.nz/2020/01/26/the-disinformation-around-5g/


Brilliant!

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  #2407257 26-Jan-2020 23:03
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Always been a fan of this

 

 

 

"Do your research"

 

Translation:

 

I've spent too many dark nights reading blogs (scaremonger) already. And it was bad. The big science words scared me. Your big science words can't change that. I've read enough.

 

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  #2407282 27-Jan-2020 01:00
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Yeah, "do your own research" is code for "look up any source of information, no matter how dubious, that confirms whatever conspiracy you want to believe in".

 

 

I have a friend who's a conspiracy theorist, and who doesn't trust the MSM because "they lie to you". Their sources of information on various things in the world are:

 

 

Ukraine: Russia Today.

 

Syria: PressTV (in case that's not a familiar name, it's the news service of the Islamic Republic of Iran).

 

Africa: White supremacist web sites.

 

Europe: Not sure, but seems to be Twitter and Fox News.

 

 

They literally go to the worst possible sources of information for whatever they want to find out about, apart from the Europe bit I simply cannot think of a worse, less reliable source of information on a subject than the ones above. What's really distressing is that, because they believe the MSM lies to them, they instead turn to media sources that are in several cases specifically set up to lie to them, and then believe those.

 

 

In other words, you're never going to get anywhere trying to debate conspiracy theorists. What you need to target instead is the people who might be swayed by the conspiracy theorists' arguments. So aim past the conspiracy theorists, they're a lost cause, and instead talk to their intended audience.

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  #2407283 27-Jan-2020 02:20
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Wait, are you saying you think Fox News is a reliable news source?


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