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  # 654595 12-Jul-2012 14:47
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Add in an 0900 $20 charge.

If you accept the call charges say googoo gaagaa

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  # 654597 12-Jul-2012 14:50
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personally i dont think very young kids should be allowed anywhere near phones. (very annoying trying to call someone and having toddlers answering phones unsupervised)

having said that i dont have kids myself so i cant really comment on child rearing.. but i imagine the chance of a massive phonebill should be deterrant enough




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  # 654921 13-Jul-2012 10:15
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Hahahaha I just had 3 calls from the same baby. I kept trying to call back but it was engaged to finally i got through and a woman answered and said her baby was playing with the phone. I told her a phone is not a toy and the baby could be dialing 111 which takes up quite a bit of resources, then she said he has done that before!!!

What a dumb ass, if your baby has done it once before why let him play with the phone again!




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  # 654939 13-Jul-2012 10:33
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As a parent of a very inquisitive and active child, I laugh at the concept of "letting" your rugrat/toddler do something.  Whether or not you "let" them, they do get out of your control sometimes.  It's not like you can chain them to a bloody post, and nor is it healthy to stem their creativity in this way.

I don't know how many 111 calls our boy has made and we certainly never "let" him play with a phone, some kids just get into everything, it's called exploring your environment and it's a natural part of their development.  It's simply not feasible to keep your phone under lock and key 24/7 especially if it's a cordless, they get left places, and are so much fun to play with!

Getting nuisance calls like this is a symptom of something called "sharing a planet with other human beings".  Have a laugh and get over it :)

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  # 654941 13-Jul-2012 10:43
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As a new Parent I can confidently say - If you are not a parent then you REALLY have NO IDEA about children - raising them and how they behave etc... you may think "I do know, I was a child once " but actually having your own children is a real eye opener and a huge learning curve!

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  # 654951 13-Jul-2012 10:59
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ubergeeknz: As a parent of a very inquisitive and active child, I laugh at the concept of "letting" your rugrat/toddler do something.  Whether or not you "let" them, they do get out of your control sometimes.  It's not like you can chain them to a bloody post, and nor is it healthy to stem their creativity in this way.

I don't know how many 111 calls our boy has made and we certainly never "let" him play with a phone, some kids just get into everything, it's called exploring your environment and it's a natural part of their development.  It's simply not feasible to keep your phone under lock and key 24/7 especially if it's a cordless, they get left places, and are so much fun to play with!

Getting nuisance calls like this is a symptom of something called "sharing a planet with other human beings".  Have a laugh and get over it :)


Hmmmmm

Yes exploring their environment is a natural part of their development, but also teaching restraint and discipline is also part of rearing a child.

Do you allow your child to play with the household cleaning chemicals, or the hot elements on the stove, or poke metal objects into 3 pin sockets?  I'm assuming you don't, so why can't/don't you stop them playing with things like the phone as well.

As for your sharing the planet comment, I find that flippant and rather selfish.  Perhaps you'd be happy sharing the planet with a neighbour who plays loud music when you're trying to get your infant off to sleep.





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  # 654952 13-Jul-2012 11:02
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ubergeeknz: As a parent of a very inquisitive and active child, I laugh at the concept of "letting" your rugrat/toddler do something.  Whether or not you "let" them, they do get out of your control sometimes.  It's not like you can chain them to a bloody post, and nor is it healthy to stem their creativity in this way.

I don't know how many 111 calls our boy has made and we certainly never "let" him play with a phone, some kids just get into everything, it's called exploring your environment and it's a natural part of their development.  It's simply not feasible to keep your phone under lock and key 24/7 especially if it's a cordless, they get left places, and are so much fun to play with!

Getting nuisance calls like this is a symptom of something called "sharing a planet with other human beings".  Have a laugh and get over it :)


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  # 654958 13-Jul-2012 11:16
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Technofreak:
ubergeeknz: As a parent of a very inquisitive and active child, I laugh at the concept of "letting" your rugrat/toddler do something.  Whether or not you "let" them, they do get out of your control sometimes.  It's not like you can chain them to a bloody post, and nor is it healthy to stem their creativity in this way.

I don't know how many 111 calls our boy has made and we certainly never "let" him play with a phone, some kids just get into everything, it's called exploring your environment and it's a natural part of their development.  It's simply not feasible to keep your phone under lock and key 24/7 especially if it's a cordless, they get left places, and are so much fun to play with!

Getting nuisance calls like this is a symptom of something called "sharing a planet with other human beings".  Have a laugh and get over it :)


Hmmmmm

Yes exploring their environment is a natural part of their development, but also teaching restraint and discipline is also part of rearing a child.

Do you allow your child to play with the household cleaning chemicals, or the hot elements on the stove, or poke metal objects into 3 pin sockets?  I'm assuming you don't, so why can't/don't you stop them playing with things like the phone as well.

As for your sharing the planet comment, I find that flippant and rather selfish.  Perhaps you'd be happy sharing the planet with a neighbour who plays loud music when you're trying to get your infant off to sleep.



How do you compare a phone to dangerous chemicals and sharp objects?  You want me to lock my phone up in a cabinet?  What a ridiculous argument.  The outcomes of a toddler getting hold of these two things are vastly different.

Furthermore, I couldn't care less if the neighbours play loud music, children can sleep through just about anything.


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  # 654974 13-Jul-2012 11:30
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ubergeeknz:
Technofreak:
ubergeeknz: As a parent of a very inquisitive and active child, I laugh at the concept of "letting" your rugrat/toddler do something.  Whether or not you "let" them, they do get out of your control sometimes.  It's not like you can chain them to a bloody post, and nor is it healthy to stem their creativity in this way.

I don't know how many 111 calls our boy has made and we certainly never "let" him play with a phone, some kids just get into everything, it's called exploring your environment and it's a natural part of their development.  It's simply not feasible to keep your phone under lock and key 24/7 especially if it's a cordless, they get left places, and are so much fun to play with!

Getting nuisance calls like this is a symptom of something called "sharing a planet with other human beings".  Have a laugh and get over it :)


Hmmmmm

Yes exploring their environment is a natural part of their development, but also teaching restraint and discipline is also part of rearing a child.

Do you allow your child to play with the household cleaning chemicals, or the hot elements on the stove, or poke metal objects into 3 pin sockets?  I'm assuming you don't, so why can't/don't you stop them playing with things like the phone as well.

As for your sharing the planet comment, I find that flippant and rather selfish.  Perhaps you'd be happy sharing the planet with a neighbour who plays loud music when you're trying to get your infant off to sleep.



How do you compare a phone to dangerous chemicals and sharp objects?  You want me to lock my phone up in a cabinet?  What a ridiculous argument.  The outcomes of a toddler getting hold of these two things are vastly different.

Furthermore, I couldn't care less if the neighbours play loud music, children can sleep through just about anything.



You are quite right about the significant difference between dangerous chemicals and a phone. You missed my point, if you can stop your child playing with dangerous items like putting metal objects into 3 pin sockets or burning their fingers on the stove you can also teach them not to play with the phone.  

As I mentioned it's all about teaching restraint and discipline. 




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  # 654980 13-Jul-2012 11:55
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Technofreak:
ubergeeknz: As a parent of a very inquisitive and active child, I laugh at the concept of "letting" your rugrat/toddler do something.  Whether or not you "let" them, they do get out of your control sometimes.  It's not like you can chain them to a bloody post, and nor is it healthy to stem their creativity in this way.

I don't know how many 111 calls our boy has made and we certainly never "let" him play with a phone, some kids just get into everything, it's called exploring your environment and it's a natural part of their development.  It's simply not feasible to keep your phone under lock and key 24/7 especially if it's a cordless, they get left places, and are so much fun to play with!

Getting nuisance calls like this is a symptom of something called "sharing a planet with other human beings".  Have a laugh and get over it :)


Hmmmmm

Yes exploring their environment is a natural part of their development, but also teaching restraint and discipline is also part of rearing a child.

Do you allow your child to play with the household cleaning chemicals, or the hot elements on the stove, or poke metal objects into 3 pin sockets?  I'm assuming you don't, so why can't/don't you stop them playing with things like the phone as well.

As for your sharing the planet comment, I find that flippant and rather selfish.  Perhaps you'd be happy sharing the planet with a neighbour who plays loud music when you're trying to get your infant off to sleep.



tehnofreak stop being a douche.  theyre kids, they do get up to mischief.  im sure you did things when you were younger your parents didnt know about.

if a parent has to run to the bathroom, should they lock their 2 year old in their room?  

as a parent you keep all the dangerous stuff out of reach, but you dont go to extremes and hide everything away, if you did you wouldnt have anything in your house.

you need to leave stuff out so you can teach them, this is not a toy, you need to respect this.  at 2 this is difficult to do, and they dont know until they play/explore.  

sure if the same kid is doing it over and over the parent should teach them not to.  but if they do it once, meh theyre exploring/learning no harm done. 

disclaimer: i have a 3 year old, who my dad looks after on fridays (hes a preschool mon to tuesday) when he was 2 he called 111 on one such friday.  he's never done that since, and doesnt play with phones anymore.  we have lots of phones everywhere, lots of remotes, lots of tech etc, he doesnt really play with that stuff, mostly he just pulls out the couch cushion to jump on them or play with his thomas toys.  i.e. hes learnt to leave that stuff alone, but he did so by first trying. 

gez theyre kids.

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  # 654993 13-Jul-2012 12:34
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Just call back post kids bedtime and say you had a missed call from this number but just heavy breathing on your andswerphone.

After this happens a few times I expect they might start to control their phone a little better. Bonus points if calling back wakes their kid up ;)




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  # 655016 13-Jul-2012 13:01
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Bee: As a new Parent I can confidently say - If you are not a parent then you REALLY have NO IDEA about children - raising them and how they behave etc... you may think "I do know, I was a child once " but actually having your own children is a real eye opener and a huge learning curve!


It's called putting the phone out of their reach.




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  # 655044 13-Jul-2012 13:36
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As a soon-to-be grandad, I get a kick out of contemplating all those folk who think they can transfer their clever organisational and time-management skills to raising a family. To answer the original question, most parents would have let the baby play with the phone at some stage, whereas funnily enough not a lot would let them play with the drano.

If you can't imagine the time when you'll hand the closest object to the baby just to grab five minutes to yourself, then you are not yet a parent, and have a real treat to look forward to. I wish I could do it all over again...

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  # 655065 13-Jul-2012 13:58
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There is always a degree of irony when people without kids, or who don't spend alot of time with kids, get on the high horse. Inevitably they end up with the most needy, screaming, demanding babies.

There isn't a perfect way to raise a child and they parents make mistakes, especially this time of year with stuff all sleep cause the kids are sick. Just relax and move on, there are many more important things to complain about like data caps :)

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  # 655069 13-Jul-2012 14:06
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The amount of douchebaggery in this thread is amazing. I honestly feel ashamed to share the same planet and hope you lot don't have kids of your own.

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