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Topic # 148496 21-Jun-2014 05:42
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I'd like to save $20 per month by switching to naked broadband. I don't have any monitored alarms or SkyTV. We all have smart phones.

I have elderly relatives in the UK that can't cope with Skype, so I need a NZ number. 

I'm looking at getting a Skype number for them/others to call. These are 10 GBP for 3 months or 30 GBP for a year. (A NZ number, because a UK one would reaaalllly confuse them!)

Can anyone see any pitfalls in doing this? Any WAF issues?

or better/cheaper ways of doing the same thing?




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  Reply # 1071415 21-Jun-2014 08:16
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If you look a a local provider like 2talk you can get a local (NZ) number which you access on your smart fone thru their app.
Give the number to relatives and it solves that side of your issue. You use it to call them for a few cents per min.
A bit of Google time should show you a few options

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  Reply # 1071449 21-Jun-2014 09:37
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I have switched to naked broadband about 1 month ago but ported my home number to 2Talk on their $10 VOIP plan.

Calls to the UK are included in the plan which gives you 250 minutes national and international calling.



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  Reply # 1071459 21-Jun-2014 09:52
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kiwiharry: I have switched to naked broadband about 1 month ago but ported my home number to 2Talk on their $10 VOIP plan.

Calls to the UK are included in the plan which gives you 250 minutes national and international calling.


Thanks for the info.

I was reading the number-porting process on the 2talk website just now. It's not entirely straightforward - did it run smoothly for you?




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  Reply # 1071460 21-Jun-2014 09:58
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If you don't need a smartphone app you can port the number to WxC VFX - I have a VFX number on my Vodafone cable and my parents-in-law use a VFX number on their WXC DSL.

The advantage here is that you can use one of their pre-configured adapter or router, plug a standard phone set (cordless or not) and you have the same functionality as a landline without the cost.





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  Reply # 1074926 26-Jun-2014 12:13
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I have changed ISP - gone from Xnet to Wireless nation and also ditched my Telecom line and gone naked. Changed to VDSL.

Some things I never knew beforehand - that I would have to add local dialling code(07) for local calls ans also need another cordless phone for upstairs - got the base set + 1 other..mmmm...takes a bit of cash to get going...modem, porting!!

My 20 GB + line rental will cost $110.
Previously with Telecom = $58/month and Xnet - $67/month for 30 GB and 7.8 Mbps/128 now get 39mbps on LAN and 9 up
Even on upstairs desktop (modem downstairs) get 20 Mbps down!

I upgraded the firmware on my previous ADSL modem (DSL-2870B) to get the VDSL service but ended up buying the modem off W Nation - an Innbox V-50U - at least it's fibre ready when fibre geto to us next year. 

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  Reply # 1074932 26-Jun-2014 12:26
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Whether you would need to dial an area code would depend entirely on the VoIP provider and how well they have their network configured.

That's not a particularly cheap price for residential though, it would have been cheaper to stay on Telecom VDSL2 with a landline.





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  Reply # 1074933 26-Jun-2014 12:28
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Get a UK number on skype so they can dial it toll free. Its cheap too




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  Reply # 1074984 26-Jun-2014 13:22
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TimA: Get a UK number on skype so they can dial it toll free. Its cheap too


Yea I looked at that but by the time we have an NZ number too it starts to add up. Much as I love them, I don't want to totally subsidise them!




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  Reply # 1074985 26-Jun-2014 13:23
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freitasm: If you don't need a smartphone app you can port the number to WxC VFX - I have a VFX number on my Vodafone cable and my parents-in-law use a VFX number on their WXC DSL.

The advantage here is that you can use one of their pre-configured adapter or router, plug a standard phone set (cordless or not) and you have the same functionality as a landline without the cost.



Not sure what hardware I'd need but it all seemed quite pricey upfront if I'm doing it to save money.




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  Reply # 1074990 26-Jun-2014 13:31
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Snap included VoIP free with their packages, it works fine. Don't forget some kind of UPS if you want a phone during a power cut or emergency - I'm going to make a DC UPS when I get around to it, probably always charging but manually switched on so it doesn't drain when not required.




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  Reply # 1075062 26-Jun-2014 15:18
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freitasm: If you don't need a smartphone app you can port the number to WxC VFX - I have a VFX number on my Vodafone cable and my parents-in-law use a VFX number on their WXC DSL.

The advantage here is that you can use one of their pre-configured adapter or router, plug a standard phone set (cordless or not) and you have the same functionality as a landline without the cost.



I don't get the thing about the cost: 

Naked Internet Connections cost $15-25 more than bundled, $10-15 for a Voip Connection, then you miss out on all the big telcos $2 capped calling and other such benefits like being with 1 provider for everything and calls being zero rated to cellphones. 

Switching at home saved us MAYBE a few dollars a month and with the time spent and costs of buying ATA's and mucking around when the voip stuff doesn't work, we would have been better on pots.


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  Reply # 1075067 26-Jun-2014 15:28
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I tend to agree with networkn. The cost savings are pretty minimal. The 250 national and UK/OZ minutes with 2Talk is great, but to be honest we hardly ever call overseas.

The big positive for me in switching to Naked + VOIP is all the cool stuff you can do with home automation! Using Freeswitch as my VOIP switch I can do all sorts of clever stuff;

* Pause XBMC when an incoming call arrives and display the caller on the TV, and resume XBMC when the call ends
* Silence my phones when I am not at home - so people snooping around outside don't hear an unanswered phone ringing out (read this on a site with a list of tips to prevent breakins)
* Incoming calls ring my mobile as well as the house phone. Since I always have my mobile on me I can answer calls to the home phone anywhere in the house without having to rush to the nearest phone
* I have a SIP client on my work PC (I work from home). This means I can easily make/receive calls using my USB headset for hands free calling etc.
* Receive an email with an MP3 of any voice mails

There are a few things on my todo list as well, like have a different voicemail message for work hours. So calls between 8am - 5pm get a business message and anything else gets our personal greeting. Should be pretty easy with Freeswitch - just haven't gotten around to it.

Very cool stuff and simply not possible with a standard POTS.


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  Reply # 1075303 26-Jun-2014 22:52
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I switched to naked, and paid extra $20 per month to have the home number on my wife's mobile phone.  me not having to take phone calls anymore is a win no matter how much or little the savings are :-)




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  Reply # 1075311 26-Jun-2014 23:01
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SumnerBoy: I tend to agree with networkn. The cost savings are pretty minimal. The 250 national and UK/OZ minutes with 2Talk is great, but to be honest we hardly ever call overseas.

The big positive for me in switching to Naked + VOIP is all the cool stuff you can do with home automation! Using Freeswitch as my VOIP switch I can do all sorts of clever stuff;

* Pause XBMC when an incoming call arrives and display the caller on the TV, and resume XBMC when the call ends
* Silence my phones when I am not at home - so people snooping around outside don't hear an unanswered phone ringing out (read this on a site with a list of tips to prevent breakins)
* Incoming calls ring my mobile as well as the house phone. Since I always have my mobile on me I can answer calls to the home phone anywhere in the house without having to rush to the nearest phone
* I have a SIP client on my work PC (I work from home). This means I can easily make/receive calls using my USB headset for hands free calling etc.
* Receive an email with an MP3 of any voice mails

There are a few things on my todo list as well, like have a different voicemail message for work hours. So calls between 8am - 5pm get a business message and anything else gets our personal greeting. Should be pretty easy with Freeswitch - just haven't gotten around to it.

Very cool stuff and simply not possible with a standard POTS.



Very few of these things would appeal to me quite honestly and given the downsides, I wish I hadn't made the change.  Never mind, spilt milk and all that.

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  Reply # 1075359 27-Jun-2014 07:23
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With the competition in the residential space driven primarily by Telecom there aren't necessarily any real cost savings using VoIP at the low end of the market than there are with a fixed line. It's more that you can do a lot more with VoIP.


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